From: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Torsten Landschoff <torsten@debian.org>,
J?rn Engel <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>,
Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: top stack (l)users for 2.5.69
Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:36:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030508173647.W626@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030507160144.GS8931@holomorphy.com>; from wli@holomorphy.com on Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:01:44AM -0700
On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:01:44AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> Pure per-cpu stacks would require the interrupt model of programming to
> be used, which is a design decision deep enough it's debatable whether
> it's feasible to do conversions to or from at all, never mind desirable.
> Basically every entry point into the kernel is treated as an interrupt,
> and nothing can ever sleep or be scheduled in the kernel, but rather
> only register callbacks to be run when the event waited for occurs.
> Scheduling only happens as a decision of which userspace task to resume
> when returning from the kernel to userspace, though one could envision
> a priority queue discipline for processing the registered callbacks.
To illustrate that: It's basically a difference like between
fork() and spawn(). Threads (of control) are completely decoupled
und re-coupled only by the event/callback mechanism.
This is introducing exactly the mechanisms Linus didn't like when
he decided, that he doesn't want a micro kernel architecture.
So it is not going to happen RSN.
Regards
Ingo Oeser
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-07 13:20 Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 13:45 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 13:56 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 14:16 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 17:13 ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-05-07 17:40 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:12 ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 18:28 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:44 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 18:46 ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 19:30 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 19:42 ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 20:04 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 20:23 ` Roland Dreier
2003-05-07 20:42 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08 9:06 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-08 11:33 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-08 12:00 ` Helge Hafting
2003-05-08 15:42 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-09 8:57 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-09 16:50 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08 16:47 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 18:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:22 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 19:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:39 ` Hua Zhong
2003-05-07 21:47 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-08 10:29 ` David Howells
2003-05-07 17:55 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 16:20 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-05-07 19:01 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-07 20:06 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 20:14 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-08 8:41 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-08 16:51 ` Dave Hansen
2003-05-08 22:12 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 21:30 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-07 21:54 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 22:01 ` Jesse Pollard
2003-05-07 14:33 ` Torsten Landschoff
2003-05-07 14:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 15:04 ` Torsten Landschoff
2003-05-07 16:01 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-08 15:36 ` Ingo Oeser [this message]
2003-05-08 18:04 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 15:23 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-07 15:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 16:49 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 17:18 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 17:40 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 18:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2003-05-07 19:45 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 18:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 17:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-07 17:47 ` Jörn Engel
2003-05-07 14:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-05-07 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-07 19:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-05-07 20:38 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-07 21:27 ` Marcus Alanen
2003-05-07 21:27 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-08 15:10 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-05-08 17:12 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-05-07 19:38 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-08 14:08 Chuck Ebbert
2003-05-08 18:04 ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-05-08 19:05 ` Timothy Miller
2003-05-08 21:00 ` Jonathan Lundell
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