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From: "J.A. Magallon" <jamagallon@able.es>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: AA's 00_backout_gcc_3-0-patch-1
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 01:15:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030526231548.GA14858@werewolf.able.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030526225445.GV3767@dualathlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Tue, May 27, 2003 at 00:54:45 +0200


On 05.27, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 07:30:44PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
[...]
> 
> Overall in kernel we disagreed to follow the MUST requrested by the gcc
> developers, we often want to do comparisons of variables out of locks to
> know if we need to take the lock and work on a garbage collection or
> stuff like that and we for sure don't want to mark those variables
> volatile since they must be cached and not spilled all the time, under
> the locks. Linus as well was against using volatile for every piece of
> memory that can change under gcc. The decision is been basically to
> outsmart gcc in choosing if gcc has rights to generate kernel crashing
> code or not. This makes kernel developement even more difficult since
> you've to imagine whatever smart thing gcc can do with your not
> serialized code to know if you're forced to mark the stuff volatile, but
> it'll generate the very best performance.
> 

So you are telling that you are allowed to do something like:

int* a = 0x320;

for (i=1000 samples)
	v[i] = *a;

in kernel code and you trust gcc to not optimize the loop away ??
What is volatile is volatile...

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-26 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-26 22:30 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-05-26 22:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-05-26 23:15   ` J.A. Magallon [this message]
2003-05-26 23:30     ` Andrea Arcangeli

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