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From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: "Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky" <inaky.perez-gonzalez@intel.com>
Cc: "'Kevin P. Fleming'" <kpfleming@cox.net>,
	"'Alan Stern'" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"'Patrick Mochel'" <mochel@osdl.org>,
	"'Russell King'" <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"'Greg KH'" <greg@kroah.com>,
	"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Flaw in the driver-model implementation of attributes
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 05:18:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030618041811.GY6754@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A46BBDB345A7D5118EC90002A5072C780DD16A41@orsmsx116.jf.intel.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:44:50PM -0700, Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky wrote:

> Maybe this is going to kill my argument as an analogy, but think
> about a C++ class hierarchy, where belonging to a class means
> to inherit that class' methods. When an object is instantiated
> and its class inherits a lot of other classes, it inherits all
> the methods of those classes. Your methods are the attrs, and
> you can access them with the same pointer, you don't  need to
> look somewhere else ...

But there is no inheritance here.  Block device and IDE disk are
different objects and relation is not "A is B with <...>", it's
"among other things, A happens to use B in a way <...>".  

Moreover, there is no such thing as "physical device of that block device".
There might be many.  There might be none.  IOW, we have a bunch of
constructors for class "block device" and some of them happen to have
some kinds of physical devices among their arguments.  That's it.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-18  4:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-18  3:44 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-06-18  4:18 ` viro [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-19 21:18 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-06-19  0:06 Clayton Weaver
2003-06-19  0:20 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-19 16:46   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-18 19:52 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-06-18  7:48 Perez-Gonzalez, Inaky
2003-06-18  8:12 ` viro
2003-06-18 14:32   ` Alan Stern
2003-06-18 17:15     ` Greg KH
2003-06-18 19:50       ` Alan Stern
2003-06-19 16:42         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-19 21:18           ` Alan Stern
2003-06-19 14:13       ` Alan Stern
2003-06-19 17:07         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-19 21:14           ` Alan Stern
2003-06-19 21:31             ` Greg KH
2003-06-20 14:22               ` Alan Stern
2003-06-20 18:32                 ` Greg KH
2003-07-02 22:12                   ` Greg KH
2003-07-03 14:51                     ` Alan Stern
2003-06-19 17:26         ` Mike Anderson
     [not found] <20030616194446.H13312@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2003-06-16 19:36 ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 20:49   ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-16 21:29     ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 22:43       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-17 19:49         ` Alan Stern
2003-06-18  1:38           ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-06-16 23:36       ` Greg KH
2003-06-17 17:29         ` Alan Stern
2003-06-17 17:33           ` Greg KH
2003-06-17 20:20             ` Alan Stern
2003-06-15 16:42 Alan Stern
2003-06-15 17:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-06-16 14:05   ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 17:08 ` Greg KH
2003-06-16 17:20   ` Russell King
2003-06-16 17:54     ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 18:00       ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-16 18:03       ` viro
2003-06-16 18:23         ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 18:38           ` Patrick Mochel
2003-06-16 19:06             ` Alan Stern
2003-06-16 18:00     ` Martin Diehl
2003-06-16 18:15       ` viro

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