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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>
Cc: diegocg@teleline.es, reiser@namesys.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Filesystem Tests
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:19:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030806141905.40126313.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030806180427.GC21290@matchmail.com>

Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:34:10PM +0200, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote:
>  > El Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:06:37 +0400 Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> escribi?:
>  > 
>  > > I don't think ext2 is a serious option for servers of the sort that 
>  > > Linux specializes in, which is probably why he didn't measure it.
>  > 
>  > Why?
> 
>  Because if you have a power outage, or a crash, you have to run the
>  filesystem check tools on it or risk damaging it further.
> 
>  Journaled filesystems have a much smaller chance of having problems after a
>  crash.

Journalled filesytems have a runtime cost, and you're paying that all the
time.

If you're going 200 days between crashes on a disk-intensive box then using
a journalling fs to save 30 minutes at reboot time just doesn't stack up:
you've lost much, much more time than that across the 200 days.

It all depends on what the machine is doing and what your max downtime
requirements are.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-06 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-06  2:30 Grant Miner
2003-08-06  3:47 ` Peter Chubb
2003-08-06 10:43   ` Oleg Drokin
2003-08-06  5:41 ` Andrew Morton
2003-08-06 10:35   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-08-09  1:09     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-09  5:12       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-08-09  9:33         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-09  9:18           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-08-09 16:19             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-10 21:03               ` Grant Miner
2003-08-12  8:27                 ` Dieter Nützel
2003-08-06 14:06   ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-06 16:34     ` Diego Calleja García
2003-08-06 18:04       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-06 18:45         ` Diego Calleja García
2003-08-06 19:08           ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-06 19:40             ` Diego Calleja García
2003-08-07 13:51               ` Hans Reiser
2003-08-07  0:55           ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2003-08-06 21:19         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2003-08-06 21:25           ` ieee1394 (Firewire) driver problem Henrik Raeder Clausen
2003-08-07 12:55       ` Filesystem Tests Hans Reiser
2003-08-07 19:09         ` Diego Calleja García
2003-08-07 19:21           ` ahorn
2003-08-06 23:37     ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-06 23:47       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-07  0:40         ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-07 13:55     ` jlnance
2003-08-06  9:55 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-08-06 10:48 ` Paul Dickson
2003-08-06 11:39   ` Grant Miner

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