From: root@mauve.demon.co.uk
To: root@chaos.analogic.com
Cc: kernel@wildsau.idv.uni.linz.at ("H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing
List)"), alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox),
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Linux Kernel Mailing List)
Subject: Re: usb-storage: how to ruin your hardware(?)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:33:07 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200308271933.UAA14620@mauve.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0308271123480.659@chaos> from "Richard B. Johnson" at Aug 27, 2003 11:37:07 AM
>
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List) wrote:
>
> > > > "after the first write the flash device failed entirely". That doen't
<snip>
> Remember when AT Class machines had a BIOS that allowed you
> to low-level format hard drives? When early IDE drives came
> out, persons tried to format them and they got destroyed.
> So, BIOS vendors took away the format capability.
>
> The IDE drive companies started a lie that was repeated so
> often that it seemed true. It was that IDE drives didn't
> have 'formatters' and, therefore, could only be formatted
> at the factory. Of course, if this was true, how come
> the format command did anything?? The truth was that
This is actually true, and has been since around 80Mb or so.
There is no absolute positioning information on the disk drive that can
be used to lay down new positioning information for the tracks.
Before this, there used to be a stepper motor that could position the
head at track 743, or a seperate head that read track information from
a dedicated surface.
> these drives stored their parameters on the disk platters.
> If you re-wrote the first real sectors on the drive, the
This is more likely the problem, but
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-27 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-21 1:34 H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-21 1:55 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-08-21 2:05 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-21 2:35 ` Brandon Stewart
2003-08-21 6:17 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-08-21 10:16 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-08-21 7:11 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-22 10:44 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-27 15:11 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-27 15:37 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-27 19:33 ` root [this message]
2003-08-27 19:58 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-28 2:59 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-28 13:44 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-28 16:18 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-28 20:25 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-08-29 10:25 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-08-29 16:11 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-09-09 9:57 ` Peter Werner
2003-09-15 22:57 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2003-08-27 16:10 ` Bas Mevissen
[not found] <mMAP.NQ.15@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <mMUh.12N.19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <mUI5.7Hp.27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-08-21 12:35 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-08-22 1:06 ` jw schultz
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