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From: "Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net>
To: David T Hollis <dhollis@davehollis.com>
Cc: Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext2 -> ext3 on the fly?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:27:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030829142722.GB12564@rdlg.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F4F6233.5050809@davehollis.com>

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Thus spake David T Hollis (dhollis@davehollis.com):

> Robert L. Harris wrote:
> 
> >I have a number of servers which are currently mounting /usr as ext2.  I 
> >have a means of doing an tune2fs -j on all of them remotely en mass but
> >I'd rather not reboot them all to enable journaling on machines that are
> >up and not having issues.  I've tried to do a:
> >
> >mount -t ext3 -o remount /usr
> >
> >as well as just a mount -o remount after changing the fstab.
> >
> >on a test box but it just blows out a usage message.  Is there a way to
> >do this remount without a complete reboot that'll be transparant to
> >users?
> >
> >
> >If not, is it dangerous to tune2fs the filesystems, change the fstab and
> >then leave the box up for 2-6 months and let them reboot through
> >atrrition, upgrades, etc?
> >
> >Current kernel is 2.4.21-ac3, getting outages and upgrades is a rather
> >long process involving regression testing, etc.
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >:wq!
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >Robert L. Harris                     | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
> >                                        @ x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
> >DISCLAIMER:
> >     These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
> >
> >Life is not a destination, it's a journey.
> > Microsoft produces 15 car pileups on the highway.
> >   Don't stop traffic to stand and gawk at the tragedy.
> > 
> >
> I would be inclined to say it's not safe not from a code perspective but 
> an administration perspective.  If you make a change as significant as 
> the file system format but don't test it until you reboot the box six 
> months from now (when you aren't thinking about how you changed it six 
> months ago) problems are likely to happen.  Could be a simple typo or 
> something else, but it can definitely come back to bite you in the 
> backside.  Granted, if you forgot to change your fstab to ext3, you'd 
> still boot and be fine running as ext2, you just never can tell what 
> could happen.  Murphy always likes to visit on those occasions.


My thoughts exactly, just wanted someone else to say it so I can give it
to management.  Unfortunately I know their response will be that our
package management system will ensure this won't happen which
technically it shouldn't but I can think of a couple ways ti still
could.


:wq!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert L. Harris                     | GPG Key ID: E344DA3B
                                         @ x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu
DISCLAIMER:
      These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.

Life is not a destination, it's a journey.
  Microsoft produces 15 car pileups on the highway.
    Don't stop traffic to stand and gawk at the tragedy.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-29 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-29 14:16 Robert L. Harris
2003-08-29 14:24 ` David T Hollis
2003-08-29 14:27   ` Robert L. Harris [this message]
2003-08-29 15:25     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-08-29 14:27 ` Matti Aarnio

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