From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Andrea VM changes
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:50:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030901175008.GK11503@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309011426390.5932-100000@logos.cnet>
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:27:07PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> Mind to answer this message Andrea?
part 1 is correct. non __GFP_IO only shrinks the cache. This was mostly
a feature for some place that is calling GFP_ATOMIC by mistake, and they
shoud call GFP_NOIO, they don't want to slowdown too much, usually
they're in realtime context. However it should be safe to set
failed_swapout to zero always too.
part 2 is the thing that avoids the kernel to deadlock during oom, the
first time I scan the whole vm and nothing was freeable I stop trying
otherwise it takes way too long to handle oom gracefully.
I've another message from you in queue.
Feel free to ask for more details.
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 12:13:57PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You need to integrate with -aa on the VM. It has been hard enough for
> > > > > Andrea to get his stuff in, I doubt you will fair any better.
> > > >
> > > > Thats because I never received separate patches which make sense one by
> > > > one. Most of Andreas changes are all grouped into few big patches that
> > > > only he knows the mess. That is not the way to merge things.
> > > >
> > > > I want to work out with him after I merge other stuff to address that.
> > >
> > > that's true for only one patch, the others are pretty orthogonal after
> > > Andrew helped splitting them:
> > >
> > >
> > > 05_vm_03_vm_tunables-4
> > > 05_vm_05_zone_accounting-2
> > > 05_vm_06_swap_out-3
> >
> > Help me understand something about this patch. In try_to_free_pages(), you
> > set failed_swapout to zero in case we are under __GFP_IO. And
> > failed_swapout decides whether we swap_out() or not.
> >
> > So basically with -aa swap_out() is only called by __GFP_IO tasks (which
> > are throttled by the page laundering code in shrink_cache) and in mainline
> > non __GFP_IO tasks do swap_out() (and those are not throttled by anything).
> >
> > Did I understood this right?
> >
> > Part 2:
> >
> > Now in try_to_free_pages_zone() and shrink_cache you have:
> >
> > if (!*failed_swapout)
> > *failed_swapout = !swap_out(classzone);
> >
> > Which means: Keep trying to swap_out() only in case swap_out()
> > successfully desactivates nr_pages pte's. Right? Do you do that to avoid
> > terrible expensive swap_out() loops which dont successfully free pages?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Andrea
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308311353170.15412-100000@logos.cnet>
2003-09-01 17:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 17:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
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[not found] ` <qQ37.2q0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-01 9:15 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2003-09-01 1:02 Dan Kegel
2003-09-01 6:03 ` Rik van Riel
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-31 17:34 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-31 17:34 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-31 22:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 6:01 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-01 15:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:51 Dan Kegel
2003-08-31 15:48 ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 16:19 ` Dan Kegel
2003-08-31 19:08 ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-08-31 19:22 ` Chris Frey
2003-08-31 23:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 11:47 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-30 15:50 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 19:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 19:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 23:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-30 23:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 23:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 14:10 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:29 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 15:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-15 5:16 ` Greg Stark
2003-09-15 10:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 11:50 ` Matthias Andree
2003-09-01 19:52 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-01 17:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-30 15:13 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 18:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 18:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 19:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 19:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-02 20:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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