From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263751AbTIHXoS (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:44:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263753AbTIHXoS (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:44:18 -0400 Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.31]:45193 "EHLO mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263751AbTIHXoR (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:44:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:44:04 -0400 From: Jeff Sipek Subject: Fwd: Re: Use of AI for process scheduling To: Linux Kernel Mailing List Cc: Timothy Miller Message-id: <200309081944.11736.jeffpc@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Content-description: clearsigned data User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 08 September 2003 18:56, you wrote: > Well, we have this to deal with: Someone is exercising the scheduler > and notices some kind of misscheduling which causes the system to crawl. > > How are they going to get to the /proc and /sys directories to do much > of anything? The system is completely unresponsive. Furthermore, even > if the system IS responsive, we need some way to for the user to hit a > key and freeze the current state for examination. Some slow-downs last > only seconds, but we need to be able to catch them. Agreed. > You talk about weights. Would the linux community be willing to put a > neural net into the kernel? I'm sure we could optimize it to not take a > lot of processing overhead, but it's an "unknown". It would be scary to > some people to be unable to disect the actual workings of it and have no > way of determining corner-case behavior from examining code. But if we > have, say, only a 2-layer neural net, we might still be able to > reverse-engineer it. I meant weights in a more general way - variables in calculations is more appropriate. Neural nets can do a lot of interesting things, but they really need optimization. If we were to use them, we should make it a config option in the kernel (nnet or standard scheduler.) Jeff. - -- Trust me, you don't want me doing _anything_ first thing in the morning. - Linus Torvalds -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/XRRHwFP0+seVj/4RAs3KAJ9IISM5bALaOTCJtSWxPDlHxOGVEwCfedgD bCPO9/Mf1dtmA4zVgGP2Tcc= =vrNw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----