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From: Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com.br, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	galibert@limsi.fr, neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andrea@suse.de
Subject: Re: experiences beyond 4 GB RAM with 2.4.22
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:22:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030918132212.4b639f6c.skraw@ithnet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030918071249.GT906@suse.de>

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:12:49 +0200
Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18 2003, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17 2003, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Sep 17 2003, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > > > On Maw, 2003-09-16 at 20:58, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 04:29:02PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > > > > > The kernel has no idea what you will do with given ram. It does
> > > > > > > try to make some guesses but you are basically trying to paper
> > > > > > > over hardware limits.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is there a way to specifically turn that ram into a tmpfs though?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Something like z2ram copied and hacked a little to kmap the blocks it
> > > > > wants would give you a block device you could use for swap or for
> > > > > /tmp. Im not sure tmpfs would work here
> > > > 
> > > > Aditionally, you need GFP_DMA32 or similar. Would also alleviate the
> > > > nasty pressure on ZONE_NORMAL which is often quite stressed.
> > > 
> > > IMO such GFP_DMA32 flag is a bit intrusive for 2.4, isnt it?
> > 
> > Not really, it's just an extra zone. Maybe I can dig such a patch up, I
> > had one for 2.4.2-pre something...
> 
> This is the latest I had, for 2.4.5. Pretty simple and nonintrusive at
> that time.

>From a design point of view I would pretty much agree with your idea. In fact
there is a ram attribute (dma32) which currently is not reflected in the data
structures in a selectable way. I can see no good reason for this lack.

Regards,
Stephan


  reply	other threads:[~2003-09-18 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-09  9:01 Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-09 12:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-12  2:46 ` Neil Brown
2003-09-12  6:54   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-12  7:11     ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-12  7:53     ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-15 22:01     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-16  8:21       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 12:05         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 13:11         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-16 13:36           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 13:55             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-09-16 14:13               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 14:33             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-16 14:36               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 14:36             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-16 15:20               ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 15:29                 ` Alan Cox
2003-09-16 15:49                   ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-16 16:17                     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-16 19:58                   ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-17 15:10                     ` Alan Cox
2003-09-17 19:19                       ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-17 19:30                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-17 22:18                           ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-18  7:08                           ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-18  7:12                             ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-18 11:22                               ` Stephan von Krawczynski [this message]
2003-09-18 15:05                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-09-16 17:10               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-16 19:53                 ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-16 20:04                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-16 21:16                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-16 21:23                     ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-17 11:14                       ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-17 13:08                         ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-18  9:58                           ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-18 10:13                             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-09-18 11:22                               ` Olivier Galibert
2003-09-17  6:41               ` Rogier Wolff
2003-09-17 10:26                 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-17 10:42                   ` Rogier Wolff
2003-09-17 10:53                     ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-17 19:19                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-18 11:39                     ` Rogier Wolff
2003-09-18 12:13                       ` Rogier Wolff
2003-09-16 15:22             ` Timothy Miller
2003-09-16 15:29             ` Martin J. Bligh

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