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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	torvalds@osdl.org, greg@kroah.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	vserver@solucorp.qc.ca
Subject: Re: sys_vserver
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:16:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031001141654.N14398@osdlab.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031001194747.GA24632@DUK2.13thfloor.at>; from herbert@13thfloor.at on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:47:47PM +0200

* Herbert Poetzl (herbert@13thfloor.at) wrote:
> 
> one of the advantages the current _and_ future vserver project
> has over 'changing/setting some features for a process' is the
> concept of a context layer, residing between kernel and processes
> _belonging_ to a context ...

Yes, I agree, this is a useful abstraction.

> you could, for example set up a context which allows a maximum
> of 10 processes, limited to one ethernet interface, using it's
> own root/user quota, start some 'virtual' server in this context
> doing all this init stuff, and then visit this context from
> outside, via a simple 'context' change ... if you've got the
> right capabilities/permissions ...
> 
> I can not imagine how you would do that with the /proc/<pid>/attr/
> interface, but I'm sure you can explain it to me ...

Put it this way, typical security modules have a notion of a
context, and the ability to grant/deny actions base on the context.
The /proc/<pid>/attr interface is how you can set/retrieve the context
per process, and subsequent fork/exec's can chose how to propagate
that context.  I believe a reasonable portion of vserver can become a
security module, but there would clearly remain a need for some of the
virtualization (e.g. hostname, etc.).

thanks,
-chris
-- 
Linux Security Modules     http://lsm.immunix.org     http://lsm.bkbits.net

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-01 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-01 18:51 sys_vserver Chris Wright
2003-10-01 18:58 ` sys_vserver Rik van Riel
2003-10-01 19:15   ` sys_vserver Chris Wright
2003-10-01 19:21     ` sys_vserver Rik van Riel
2003-10-01 19:47     ` sys_vserver Herbert Poetzl
2003-10-01 21:16       ` Chris Wright [this message]
2003-10-01 21:44         ` sys_vserver Rik van Riel
2003-10-01 22:57           ` sys_vserver James Morris
2003-10-01 23:14             ` sys_vserver Chris Wright
2003-10-01 23:17               ` sys_vserver Rik van Riel
2003-10-01 23:32                 ` sys_vserver Chris Wright
2003-10-01 23:22               ` sys_vserver Linus Torvalds
2003-10-01 23:28                 ` sys_vserver Rik van Riel
2003-10-01 22:52         ` [vserver] sys_vserver Herbert Poetzl
2003-10-01 23:05           ` Chris Wright

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