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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Keir Fraser <Keir.Fraser@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: karim@opersys.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vserver@solucorp.qc.ca
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Xen high-performance x86 virtualization
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 03:59:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031003015923.GA5080@DUK2.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1A58aF-0000iT-00@wisbech.cl.cam.ac.uk>

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 07:53:51PM +0100, Keir Fraser wrote:
> > 
> > Keir Fraser wrote:
> > > Full recursion needs full virtualization. Our approach offers much
> > > better performance in the situations where full virtualization isn't
> > > required -- i.e., where it's feasible to distribute a ported OS.
> > 
> > I noticed that the SOSP Xen paper briefly mentions Jacques Gelinas' work
> > on VServers (http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc). While
> > Jacques' work hasn't attracted as much public attention as other Linux
> > virtualization efforts, I've personally found the approach and concepts
> > quite fascinating. Among other things, most of the code implementing the
> > contexts is architecture-independent (save for a few syscalls added to
> > arch/*/kernel/entry.S). So, thinking aloud here, I'm wondering in what
> > circumstances I'd prefer using something as architecture specific as
> > Xen over something as architecture independent as Jacques' VServers?
> > (Granted VServers can't run Windows, but I'm asking this from the angle
> > of people looking for resource isolation in the Linux context.) Among
> > other things, VServers are already in use by many ISPs to provide
> > simultaneous hosting of many "virtual machines" on the same box while
> > maintaining strict separation between machines and still providing a
> > secure environment.
> 
> One of the main differences is that we provide resource isolation, so
> that each virtual machine only gets the resources that its sponsor
> paid for. This allows companies providing virtual servers to
> provide differentiated service according to the amount paid.

although the resources are usually shared in vserver environments
(this _is_ considered an advantage) Jacques' VServers allow the
administrator to limit the resources available to each virtual
server (like memory, file handles, processes, cpu power and disk
space), which should provide similar functionality ...

best,
Herbert

>  -- Keir

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-03  1:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-02  9:17 Ian Pratt
2003-10-02 10:12 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2003-10-02 13:21   ` Oliver M. Bolzer
2003-10-02 14:25 ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-10-02 14:37   ` [Xen-devel] " Keir Fraser
2003-10-02 14:45     ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-10-02 14:48       ` Keir Fraser
2003-10-02 15:15     ` John Bradford
2003-10-02 15:30       ` Keir Fraser
2003-10-02 16:39         ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-02 17:23           ` Keir Fraser
2003-10-02 18:42             ` Karim Yaghmour
2003-10-02 18:53               ` Keir Fraser
2003-10-03  1:59                 ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2003-10-03  8:13                   ` Ian Pratt
2003-10-03 10:12                     ` Andreas Hauser
2003-10-03 10:29                       ` Ian Pratt
2003-10-03 11:53                         ` Andreas Hauser
2003-10-03 12:40                           ` Ian Pratt
2003-10-03  8:19                 ` John Bradford
2003-10-03  9:19                   ` Keir Fraser
2003-10-03 10:47                     ` John Bradford
2003-10-03 13:14                       ` Doug McNaught
     [not found] <CA95C29D57188841ABB072EA7357C00D02C13377@orsmsx402.jf.intel.com>
2003-10-03  1:50 ` Paul Brett

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