From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261885AbTJNGWF (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:22:05 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261889AbTJNGWF (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:22:05 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:59525 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261885AbTJNGWD (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:22:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:25:27 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Hans Reiser Cc: jw@pegasys.ws, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vs@thebsh.namesys.com, nikita@namesys.com Subject: Re: ReiserFS patch for updating ctimes of renamed files Message-Id: <20031013232527.3cf5701f.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <3F8B93F7.2020805@namesys.com> References: <20031012071447.GJ8724@pegasys.ws> <3F8A3CE0.4060705@namesys.com> <20031013032431.1ed40c25.akpm@osdl.org> <3F8B93F7.2020805@namesys.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hans Reiser wrote: > > do you think schultz's arguments about why it is wrong are correct? > They seem well thought out to me. Well given that you've renamed the file, you do want the backup program to pick up the "new" file. But it'd be a pretty lame backup program which was fooled by a missing ctime update. Yes, John has a point but we're not going to go and change all the other filesystems (are we?).