From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261680AbTKTMlK (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:41:10 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261724AbTKTMlK (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:41:10 -0500 Received: from smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.11.34]:30344 "HELO smtp003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S261680AbTKTMlI convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:41:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:41:21 +0100 From: Diego Calleja =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Garc=EDa?= To: Nick Piggin Cc: wli@holomorphy.com, jgarzik@pobox.com, jt@hpl.hp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pof@users.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Announce: ndiswrapper Message-Id: <20031120134121.02e11aff.aradorlinux@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <3FBC4A42.8010806@cyberone.com.au> References: <20031120031137.GA8465@bougret.hpl.hp.com> <3FBC3483.4060706@pobox.com> <20031120040034.GF19856@holomorphy.com> <3FBC402E.6070109@cyberone.com.au> <20031120043848.GG19856@holomorphy.com> <3FBC4A42.8010806@cyberone.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org El Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:59:46 +1100 Nick Piggin escribió: > I must say that I've been using the same nvidia drivers on my desktop > system for maybe a year, and never had a crash including going through > countless versions of 2.5/6. True you need to recompile the intermediate You're lucky. Nvidia drivers are broken, and it's not just linux. Their windows drivers are know to be buggy, too. And this is happening in windows (which has a "windows driver model" abi which doesn't change even between W9x and nt) Also, they don't support non-x86 architectures in linux (they have drivers for mac os X though) If there're a lot of binary drivers for linux, we'll have the same hell microsoft has (w2k and XP are rock solid, until you start using crappy drivers, then everybody complains about blue screens). A stable and defined abi (like their driver model) doesn't work for them, it won't work for us. I don't mind running propietary code...but not in the kernel. (BTW, are there modern graphics cards with 100% opensource drivers?)