From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Kristian Peters <kristian.peters@korseby.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Robert L. Harris" <Robert.L.Harris@rdlg.net>
Subject: Re: oom killer in 2.4.23
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:21:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031209142151.GB12532@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031206103143.027ba4ec.kristian.peters@korseby.net>
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 10:31:43AM +0100, Kristian Peters wrote:
> Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> schrieb:
> > what you're complaining is the 'selection of the task to be killed'.
> > That's not solvable. the kernel can't read your brain period. Only if
> > the kernel could read the brain of the adminstrator then you would be
> > happy, there is no way the kernel can know which is the task you really
> > want to have killed first.
>
> I agree. On a server the most likely application to be killed would be the service with the most pages in memory. And those services tend to be the important ones.
>
> However, for a simple desktop-linux that statistical approach seems to
> be wrong. Your vm has even killed /sbin/getty sometimes, so that I
> can't login via a simple console.
I see this problem, for most desktop users the biggest task plus some
other random bit like the nicelevel and length of runtime etc.. actually
result in a reasonable estimate of the best task to kill.
> Re-enabling the oom-killer gives a good result for me:
>
> Dec 6 09:46:19 adlib kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 643 (khexedit).
> Dec 6 09:48:42 adlib kernel: Out of Memory: Killed process 645 (khexedit).
>
> What I complain is that your vm kills some processes without
> mentioning in the logs. How can I determine what processes the kernel
> has killed ?
no this is is not the case. It is always mentioned in the logs. Grep for
VM and you'll find all of them, no difference from before. I agree it
would be very bad if the admin couldn't know what was killed exactly to
restart everything properly (with the bad app under rlimit the next time ;)
> I hope that fairly simple patch does things right for all people that
> want the old behaviour. It's already a year ago I last hacked on the
> kernel.
>
> diff -rauN linux-2.4.23/include/linux/sched.h linux-2.4.23-kp1/include/linux/sched.h
> --- linux-2.4.23/include/linux/sched.h Fri Nov 28 19:26:21 2003
> +++ linux-2.4.23-kp1/include/linux/sched.h Sat Dec 6 09:57:04 2003
> @@ -429,6 +429,7 @@
> #define PF_DUMPCORE 0x00000200 /* dumped core */
> #define PF_SIGNALED 0x00000400 /* killed by a signal */
> #define PF_MEMALLOC 0x00000800 /* Allocating memory */
> +#define PF_MEMDIE 0x00001000 /* Killed for out-of-memory */
> #define PF_FREE_PAGES 0x00002000 /* per process page freeing */
> #define PF_NOIO 0x00004000 /* avoid generating further I/O */
>
> diff -rauN linux-2.4.23/mm/oom_kill.c linux-2.4.23-kp1/mm/oom_kill.c
> --- linux-2.4.23/mm/oom_kill.c Fri Nov 28 19:26:21 2003
> +++ linux-2.4.23-kp1/mm/oom_kill.c Fri Dec 5 20:31:39 2003
> @@ -21,8 +21,6 @@
> #include <linux/swapctl.h>
> #include <linux/timex.h>
>
> -#if 0 /* Nothing in this file is used */
> -
> /* #define DEBUG */
>
> /**
> @@ -257,5 +255,3 @@
> first = now;
> count = 0;
> }
> -
> -#endif /* Unused file */
> diff -rauN linux-2.4.23/mm/vmscan.c linux-2.4.23-kp1/mm/vmscan.c
> --- linux-2.4.23/mm/vmscan.c Fri Nov 28 19:26:21 2003
> +++ linux-2.4.23-kp1/mm/vmscan.c Sat Dec 6 10:21:55 2003
> @@ -649,13 +649,7 @@
> failed_swapout = !swap_out(classzone);
> } while (--tries);
>
> - if (likely(current->pid != 1))
> - break;
> - if (!check_classzone_need_balance(classzone))
> - break;
> -
> - __set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
> - yield();
> + out_of_memory();
> }
>
> return 0;
this should go back to the 2.4.22 deadlock prone oom killer yes. you can
also leave the yield() in the main loop (after out_of_memory())
(__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING) isn't needed these days just yield is
safe enough).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-09 14:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <Z8Ag-3BK-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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2003-12-05 13:05 ` Kristian Peters
2003-12-05 13:56 ` Robert L. Harris
2003-12-05 19:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-06 9:31 ` Kristian Peters
2003-12-09 14:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2003-12-09 14:52 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-12-09 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-09 18:50 ` Kristian Peters
2003-12-05 22:38 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-12-05 22:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-04 16:12 Peter Bergmann
2003-12-04 17:02 ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2003-12-04 17:20 ` Guillermo Menguez Alvarez
2003-12-04 23:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-04 18:33 ` Peter Bergmann
2003-12-04 18:42 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-04 20:38 ` Peter Bergmann
2003-12-04 20:28 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2003-12-04 23:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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