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From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 02:18:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040101011855.GA13628@hh.idb.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031231002942.GB2875@kroah.com>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 04:29:42PM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> 
>  2) We are (well, were) running out of major and minor numbers for
>     devices.

devfs tried to fix this one by _getting rid_ of those numbers.
Seriously - what are they needed for?  
(Yes, I know why they're needed with /dev on ext2)
Opening a device in devfs went straight to the device from the
inode - no extra lookup of "device numbers"
Numbers were provided mostly for backward compatibility - they
weren't used for the main task of accessing devices.

udev has many other advantages of course, too bad we still
have to carry those numbers around.

Helge Hafting

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-01  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-31  0:29 Greg KH
2003-12-31  0:53 ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2003-12-31 19:17   ` Greg KH
2004-01-02 16:45     ` Shawn
2003-12-31 12:43 ` Paulo Marques
2004-01-01  1:18 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2004-01-03  5:59   ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 15:22     ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-03 21:18       ` viro
2004-01-03 22:11       ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20040103140140.3b848e9f.witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org>
2004-01-03 22:16       ` Greg KH
2004-01-03 22:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-01-02 17:54 ` Andreas Jellinghaus
2004-01-02 18:19   ` Shawn
     [not found] <18Cz7-7Ep-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-12-31  3:05 ` Pascal Schmidt
2003-12-31 19:23   ` Greg KH
2003-12-31 20:19     ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 22:01       ` Nathan Conrad
2003-12-31 22:20         ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 21:45           ` Tommi Virtanen
2003-12-31 23:10             ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 21:52               ` Tommi Virtanen
2004-01-02  0:17                 ` Hollis Blanchard
2004-01-02  0:36                   ` viro
2004-01-03  6:04                   ` Greg KH
2003-12-31 22:55           ` viro
2003-12-31 23:05             ` Rob Love
2003-12-31 23:48             ` Andreas Dilger
2004-01-07 10:15             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 11:18               ` viro
2004-01-07 13:00                 ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-07 13:26                   ` viro
2004-01-07 13:27                     ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-01  0:15       ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-01  0:31         ` Rob Love
2004-01-01 12:34           ` Rob Landley
2004-01-01 15:22             ` Rob Love
2004-01-01 15:48               ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-01 15:54                 ` Rob Love
2004-01-02 20:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03  3:00                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03  4:46                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03 13:10                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-03 22:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-03 23:08                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04  1:16                               ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-04  1:54                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-04 18:44                                   ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-04  2:09                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04  2:49                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04  3:04                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04 13:21                                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04 21:05                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-04 22:01                                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-04 22:37                                           ` viro
2004-01-05  1:02                                             ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05  2:24                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  2:29                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05  3:42                                               ` viro
2004-01-04 22:37                                           ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-04 23:35                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  1:43                                             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2004-01-05  1:58                                               ` viro
2004-01-05  2:12                                                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2004-01-05  2:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  3:06                                             ` David Lang
2004-01-05  3:48                                               ` Rob Landley
2004-01-05  4:52                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-05 15:13                                                 ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05 16:36                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2004-01-05 22:18                                                     ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05  3:07                                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-05  3:33                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  3:50                                                 ` viro
2004-01-05  4:02                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  4:38                                                     ` viro
2004-01-05  4:52                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05  6:11                                                         ` viro
2004-01-05  7:47                                                         ` Greg KH
2004-01-05 11:15                                                           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 20:11                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-01-05 21:06                                                               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 22:22                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-01-06  0:14                                                                 ` Rob Landley
2004-01-11 22:12                                                         ` Ed L Cashin
2004-01-05  5:26                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-05  7:39                                                       ` Greg KH
2004-01-07  9:57                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-05 12:27                                                 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 16:13                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 17:29                                                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05 17:33                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 17:52                                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-05 18:03                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 18:09                                                         ` Hugo Mills
2004-01-05 19:10                                                         ` Paul Rolland
2004-01-05 19:52                                                     ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 20:38                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-05 22:17                                                         ` Shawn
2004-01-05 22:25                                                           ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-05 23:05                                                             ` Shawn
2004-01-05 23:23                                                               ` Shawn
2004-01-06  0:43                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  0:53                                                                 ` Shawn
2004-01-05 23:13                                                         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-05 23:32                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  0:59                                                             ` viro
2004-01-06  1:17                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  4:28                                                                 ` viro
2004-01-06  5:07                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  1:06                                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-06 15:00                                                               ` Mark Mielke
2004-01-06  0:00                                                           ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  1:41                                                             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-01-07 17:14                                                               ` Greg KH
2004-01-06  0:31                                                           ` Rob Landley
2004-01-06  7:14                                                       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-01-05  7:44                                             ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-01-05  7:45                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-05 11:01                                                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-05 12:39                                                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-07 13:39                                                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-01-07 17:16                                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-01-05  9:06                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-05  4:15                                           ` Peter Chubb
2004-01-05  4:42                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-01 19:43             ` Kai Henningsen
2004-01-02  7:26               ` Rob Landley
2004-01-04  8:57                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-04  9:43                   ` Rob Landley
2004-01-02  0:17             ` Maciej Zenczykowski
     [not found]               ` <20040102103104.GA28168@mark.mielke.cc>
2004-01-03  6:07                 ` Greg KH
2004-01-03  6:51                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-03 11:57                     ` Ian Kent
2004-01-03 22:08                     ` Greg KH
2004-01-07 10:23             ` Olaf Hering
2004-01-01 23:14           ` Rob
2004-01-02  3:53             ` Tyler Hall
2004-01-01 16:17     ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-01-01 20:03       ` Greg KH
     [not found] <fa.af64864.ugabhg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.de7jae9.1jk0pjt@ifi.uio.no>
2003-12-31 22:17   ` walt
2004-01-01  2:03     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-01  2:05       ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-01 16:59 Shaheed
     [not found] <fa.flhsork.uka2hg@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hv9hpq7.1l1q9p3@ifi.uio.no>
2004-01-01 19:53   ` walt
2004-01-01 21:53     ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-01-06  1:20 Paul Zimmerman
2004-01-08 13:05 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 13:53 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 15:40 ` Ian Kent
2004-01-08 17:26   ` Diego Calleja
2004-01-08 19:25     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-08 22:40       ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-09  7:03         ` "Andrey Borzenkov" 
2004-01-08 18:14   ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-08 18:35     ` Alex Goddard
2004-01-08 19:22     ` Andrey Borzenkov
2004-01-09  8:51 ` Helge Hafting

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