From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S265337AbUBAPq4 (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:46:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S265338AbUBAPq4 (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:46:56 -0500 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.31.123]:10949 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S265337AbUBAPqz (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:46:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:41:05 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Timothy Miller Cc: chakkerz@optusnet.com.au, Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Crazy idea: Design open-source graphics chip Message-ID: <20040131184105.GC550@openzaurus.ucw.cz> References: <4017F2C0.4020001@techsource.com> <200401291211.05461.chakkerz@optusnet.com.au> <40193136.4070607@techsource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40193136.4070607@techsource.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi! > The real question we have to ask ourselves is, what would be the > market demand for a graphics card that is 3 generations behind the > state of the art and over-priced, the only advantage being that it's > a 100% open architecture? > > I don't have _100k to have it fabricated, so we have to goad some > company into doing it for us, and given the volumes, they'll have to > charge way more than it's worth if you compare its capabilities > against ATI et al. > > I've got some great ideas for how to do this chip, but they're > frankly nothing revolutionary. The obvious test bed is an FPGA. > That imposes serious limitations on what kind of logic utilization > and performance we can get. The ASIC version can be clocked faster, > but we dare not put in untested logic. (And we can't afford the > tools necessary to do the proper simulation.) > > > So, the big question: How many units a year would be sold for an > underpowered, over-priced graphics card that just happens to be 100% > open and 100% supported? It might be very usefull for embeded folks from opencores... Pavel -- 64 bytes from 195.113.31.123: icmp_seq=28 ttl=51 time=448769.1 ms