From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:10:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040216211033.GN8858@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040216201610.GC17015@schmorp.de>
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:16:10PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> The point is, however, that this is highly undesirable, and it would be
> nice to have a kernel that would (optionally) fully support a UTF-8
> environment in where applications can feed UTF-8 and _expect_ UTF-8 in
> return, which _is_ a security issue.
>
> It's very desirable to have a kernel that actively supports this. IT is
> clearly not _required_, of course. But then again, process abstraction
> is also not required...
Mind taking the demagogy elsewhere? Note that the same handwaving applies
to e.g. file contents. Care to explain what makes read() and write()
different in that respect?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-16 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <04Feb13.163954est.41760@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-02-14 14:27 ` JFS default behavior Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 15:40 ` viro
2004-02-14 17:47 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 17:59 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 23:06 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-14 23:29 ` viro
2004-02-15 0:07 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-15 3:33 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-15 4:04 ` viro
2004-02-15 9:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15 18:26 ` yodaiken
2004-02-18 2:48 ` Unicode normalization (userspace issue, but what the heck) H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-20 9:48 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-16 15:05 ` stty utf8 Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 16:10 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-02-16 22:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 22:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 18:36 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 19:26 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16 19:48 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 20:20 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 2:49 ` Rob Landley
2004-02-16 20:21 ` bert hubert
2004-02-16 20:33 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-18 2:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 3:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 5:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 10:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 11:49 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 11:59 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 12:05 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 12:34 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 19:47 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 20:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 21:22 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 21:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 11:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 11:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 16:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 7:25 ` bert hubert
2004-02-16 20:16 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16 21:10 ` viro [this message]
2004-02-17 7:18 ` jw schultz
2004-02-17 7:42 ` Nick Piggin
2004-02-16 20:03 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 20:58 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 14:12 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-16 22:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 13:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 7:14 ` Lehmann
2004-02-17 11:20 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Helge Hafting
2004-02-17 15:56 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <20040217161111.GE8231@schmorp.de>
2004-02-17 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 16:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:00 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Måns Rullgård
2004-02-17 20:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 21:06 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-17 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-22 15:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-02-22 16:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-22 21:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-02-18 7:23 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 21:23 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2004-02-18 13:11 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Matthew Garrett
2004-02-17 16:52 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 16:54 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Stefan Smietanowski
2004-02-18 1:27 ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-18 2:08 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 11:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:37 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-17 16:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 17:52 ` viro
2004-02-17 19:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 20:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:53 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:35 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 20:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:50 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:16 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 0:52 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 22:50 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 6:48 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 20:47 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:53 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:06 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:42 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-18 6:56 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-18 20:37 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-18 3:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 20:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 3:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-21 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-22 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 1:24 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-17 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 22:19 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-23 11:35 UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Norman Diamond
[not found] ` <fa.ip45pqg.i26oru@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-23 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
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