From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266580AbUBQURg (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:17:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266581AbUBQURg (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:17:36 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:40630 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266580AbUBQURb (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:17:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:17:30 +0000 From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk To: Linus Torvalds Cc: tridge@samba.org, Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: UTF-8 and case-insensitivity Message-ID: <20040217201730.GR8858@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> References: <16433.38038.881005.468116@samba.org> <16433.47753.192288.493315@samba.org> <20040217194414.GP8858@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:10:23PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > I do believe we'd need to have some way to "refresh" the fd in your > example, without restarting the whole lookup. So that when the user gets > EFOAD, it can do > > refresh(fd); lseek(fd, 0, 0); > > And we really don't want to encourage those who port Windows userland in > > not fixing the idiotic semantics. As for Lindows... let's just say that > > I can't find any way to describe what I really think of those clowns, their > > intellect and their morals that wouldn't lead to a lawsuit from them. > > Heh. > > I suspect most people don't care that much, but I also suspect that > projects like samba have to have a "anal mode" where they really act like > Windows, even when it's "wrong". People can then choose to say "screw that > idiocy", but by just _having_ a very compatible mode you deflect a lot of > criticism. Regardless of whether people want the anal mode or not in real > life. Umm... Samba deals with Windows clients. Windows software allegedly being ported to Linux is a different story and in that case there's no excuse for demanding case-insensitive operations.