From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267125AbUBSJgP (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 04:36:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267127AbUBSJgP (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 04:36:15 -0500 Received: from khan.acc.umu.se ([130.239.18.139]:34725 "EHLO khan.acc.umu.se") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267125AbUBSJgN (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Feb 2004 04:36:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:36:10 +0100 From: David Weinehall To: David Mosberger-Tang Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Intel x86-64 support merge Message-ID: <20040219093610.GF17140@khan.acc.umu.se> Mail-Followup-To: David Mosberger-Tang , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1qHr5-2tJ-39@gated-at.bofh.it> <1qHr5-2tJ-37@gated-at.bofh.it> <1qIZw-6b9-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <1qJsI-6Be-57@gated-at.bofh.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Accept-Language: Swedish, English X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7ACE 0FB0 7A74 F994 9B36 E1D1 D14E 8526 DC47 CA16 X-GPG-Key: http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/files/pubkey_dc47ca16.gpg.asc Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:05:22PM -0800, David Mosberger-Tang wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 00:40:24 +0100, Arjan van de Ven said: > > Arjan> On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 23:57, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >> Because they were caught by surprise and just hacked the chips > >> they had in the pipeline, presumably. > > Arjan> fair enough; I hope this means the next generation has this > Arjan> wart fixed... > > I wouldn't hold my breath. My impression was that the Intel chipset > folks don't want I/O MMU because (a) Windows doesn't need it and (b) > real machines use (close-to-)64-bit-capable hardware. Does Windows(-users) really need anything more than ever-more advanced graphics-adapters with ever-more buggy drivers and ever-faster CPU's, both to support their ever-more advanced and mind numbing games. Oh, and ever-bigger hard disks to hold their ever-growing collections of mp3's and movies that they probably don't even listen to/watch... Yeeshh... Some day maybe even manufactors of Intel hardware might start to create intelligent, thought through hardware, but I seriously doubt it. Regards: David Weinehall -- /) David Weinehall /) Northern lights wander (\ // Maintainer of the v2.0 kernel // Dance across the winter sky // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ (/ Full colour fire (/