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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, torvalds@osd.org
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	paulmck@us.ibm.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 12:31:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040219123110.A22406@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040218162858.2a230401.akpm@osdl.org>; from akpm@osdl.org on Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:28:58PM -0800

On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:28:58PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> OK, so I looked at the wrapper.  It wasn't a tremendously pleasant
> experience.  It is huge, and uses fairly standard-looking filesytem
> interfaces and locking primitives.  Also some awareness of NFSV4 for some
> reason.

And pokes deep into internal structures that it shouldn't.

> Still, the wrapper is GPL so this is not relevant.

It's BSD licensed - they couldn't distribute it together with GPFS if
it was GPL.

> Its only use is to tell
> us whether or not the non-GPL bits are "derived" from Linux, and it
> doesn't do that.

Well, something that needs an almost one megabyte big wrapper per defintion
is not a standalone work but something that's deeply interwinded with
the kernel.  The tons of kernel version checks certainly show it's poking
deeper than it should.

> Why do you believe that GPFS represents a kernel licensing violation?

See above.  Something that pokes deep into internal structures and even
needs new exports certainly is a derived work.  There's a few different
interpretations of the derived works clause in the GPL around, the FSF
one wouldn't allow binary modules at all, and Linus' one is also pretty
strict.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-19 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-16 19:09 Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-17  2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-17  7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 12:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18  0:19     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 12:51       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-18 14:00         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 21:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 15:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 22:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 22:51                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 23:00                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-18 16:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-18 23:32                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 12:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 18:56                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-19 19:01                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-19 13:04                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  3:17                             ` Anton Blanchard
2004-02-20 21:46                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-19  0:28                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-18 18:36                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 12:31                       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2004-02-19  9:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                           ` <20040219183210.GX14000@marowsky-bree.de>
2004-02-19 18:38                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 19:16                             ` viro
2004-02-19 16:15                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 18:59                         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19  9:11                   ` David Weinehall
2004-02-19  8:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-04  5:51                       ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-19 10:29                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-19  9:00                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-19 11:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-19 11:53                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-18 18:04         ` Tim Bird
2004-02-19 20:56       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 22:06         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-02-19 22:31           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 16:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  2:06               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-19 19:47                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20  5:07                   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 12:02                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 20:37                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 14:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-20 23:00                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 16:17                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-21  3:19                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 21:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-20 22:16                           ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-20 23:56                             ` GFS requirements (was: Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range) Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21  3:16                               ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-21 14:17                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-21 19:09                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-22 10:37                                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-24 18:26                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-18 12:12     ` Non-GPL export of invalidate_mmap_range Dominik Kubla
     [not found]   ` <24651326.1077037044@42.150.104.212.access.eclipse.net.uk>
2004-02-18 13:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-02-17 22:22 ` David Weinehall
     [not found] ` <200402211400.16779.phillips@arcor.de>
     [not found]   ` <20040222233911.GB1311@us.ibm.com>
2004-02-25 21:04     ` [RFC] Distributed mmap API Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 19:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 19:14       ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-02-25 22:07       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:07         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-02-25 22:16           ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-25 22:46             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:00         ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-03  3:15           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-03 13:06             ` Daniel Phillips
2004-03-04 18:55               ` Paul E. McKenney

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