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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Dan Kegel <dank@kegel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Judith Lebzelter <judith@osdl.org>,
	cliff white <cliffw@osdl.org>,
	"Timothy D. Witham" <wookie@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Kernel Cross Compiling [update]
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:53:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040224085327.GA17881@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <403AADA9.3040803@kegel.com>

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:49:29PM -0800, Dan Kegel wrote:
> Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> >my primary goal isn't to get this fixed by the gcc folks,
> >I want to have a simple and working solution, which seems
> >to be at hand for the toolchains, to cross compile the
> >linux kernel for testing purposes. the changes so far are
> >not very intrusive IMHO, and I can live with a few patches.
> >(btw. currently Dan Kegel has a lot more patches to gcc in 
> >his toolchain than I do)
> 
> My crosstool package has very, very few patches, and each 
> patch is carefully documented.

damn! It the last thing I wanted to do ...

my dearest apologies, Dan, it was not and is not my intention
to make your work bad in any way, on the contrary, I really 
appreciate what you are doing, and I'm glad that something 
like crosstool exits ...

best,
Herbert

> (You can see them at http://kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/gcc-3.3.2/ )
> The patches that end in -test.patch simply add testcases to the gcc
> regression test.  Several of the other patches simply fix testsuite 
> problems.
> The only patches that actually affect gcc are
> 
> http://kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/gcc-3.3.2/gcc-3.3.2-arm-softfloat.patch
> http://kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/gcc-3.3.2/sh-lib1funcs_sizeAndType.patch
> http://kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/gcc-3.3.2/sh-libgcc-hidden.patch
> http://kegel.com/crosstool/current/patches/gcc-3.3.2/sh-pic-set_fpscr-gcc-3.3.2.patch
> 
> I only add a patch after I have verified that it fixes a problem,
> and I document what that problem is at the top of the patch;
> when possible, the patch starts with a link to gcc's bugzilla for
> the problem it fixes.
> Fairly often, my patches are simply backports from cvs.
> 
> Debian, by comparison, builds gcc with huge collections of 
> patches that are not
> documented at all.  Likewise, Red Hat uses quite a few patches.
> I don't want to say the Debian and Red Hat compilers are bad,
> but I *do* want to say that crosstool builds compilers that are
> extremely close to vanilla, with all departures from vanilla 
> carefully documented.
> 
> By the way, I agree with Jim Wilson's remark:
> > As a gcc
> > maintainer, it makes my job harder when people are building the compiler
> > different ways, because I may get bug reports that I can't reproduce or
> > understand.  Also, there is a risk that a kernel-only cross compiler
> > will accidentally be used for some other purpose, resulting in a bug
> > report that wastes the time of the gcc maintainers.
> 
> That's why I suspect crosstool is a good toolchain for anyone who
> wants to report bugs to the gcc folks; it's tightly controlled,
> very close to vanilla, and has support for (gasp) running the gcc
> and glibc testsuites in a cross-development environment.
> 
> - Dan
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.misleader.org/
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-24  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-22  3:53 Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22  6:02 ` Dan Kegel
2004-02-22 15:42   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22  8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-02-22  9:07 ` Russell King
2004-02-22 15:09   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22 12:45 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2004-02-22 15:22   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22 15:52 ` Paul Mundt
2004-02-22 17:07   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-22 17:23     ` Paul Mundt
2004-02-23 13:28       ` Richard Curnow
2004-02-23 14:41         ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-26 13:02           ` Richard Curnow
2004-02-23 19:42 ` Jim Wilson
2004-02-23 20:32   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-02-24  1:49     ` Dan Kegel
2004-02-24  8:53       ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2004-02-22 16:36 Arnd Bergmann

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