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From: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Some highmem pages still in use after shrink_all_memory()?
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:36:39 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040308063639.GA20793@hexapodia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040307164052.0c8a212b.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 04:40:52PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> > For swsusp, I need to free as much memory as possible. Well, and it
> > would be great if no highmem pages remained, so that I would not have
> > to deal with that. Is that possible?
> 
> No, it isn't.  There are pagetable pages and mlocked user pages which we
> cannot do anything with.
> 
> We could perhaps swap out the mlocked pages anyway if a suspend is in
> progress, but the highmem pagetable pages are not presently reclaimed
> by the VM.

Note that there are some applications for which it is a *bug* if an
mlocked page gets written out to magnetic media.  (gpg, for example.)
I imagine that they'd rather lose the mapping and get a page fault on
the next reference (which they can then fix up with a new mmap and
mlock) than have precious key material written to disk.

... unless, of course, the swap device is securely encrypted a la
OpenBSD's 'sysctl vm.swapencrypt.enable'.

http://www.openbsd.org/papers/swapencrypt.ps

However, I don't see how to implement a cryptographically secure swsusp.

(The importance of this behavior is obviously dependent on your threat
model.  Perhaps the Sufficiently Paranoid gpg users will simply need to
avoid using swsusp.)

-andy

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-08  6:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-07 14:49 Pavel Machek
2004-03-08  0:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-08  6:36   ` Andy Isaacson [this message]
2004-03-08  5:41     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-03-08  9:13     ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-08  9:39     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-08 15:09       ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-08 15:16         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-08 15:35           ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-08 17:54             ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-08 16:36       ` Andy Isaacson
2004-03-08 18:34         ` Pavel Machek
2004-03-08 18:52           ` Andy Isaacson

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