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From: Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	Rick Lindsley <ricklind@us.ibm.com>,
	piggin@cyberone.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@osdl.org, kernel@kolivas.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	anton@samba.org, lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	mbligh@aracnet.com
Subject: Re: [Lse-tech] [patch] sched-domain cleanups, sched-2.6.5-rc2-mm2-A3
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:30:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403251630.16485.habanero@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040325215908.GA19313@elte.hu>

On Thursday 25 March 2004 15:59, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> > It doesn't do load balance in wake_up_forked_process() and is
> > relatively non aggressive in balancing later. This leads to the
> > multithreaded OpenMP STREAM running its childs first on the same node
> > as the original process and allocating memory there. Then later they
> > run on a different node when the balancing finally happens, but
> > generate cross traffic to the old node, instead of using the memory
> > bandwidth of their local nodes.
> >
> > The difference is very visible, even the 4 thread STREAM only sees the
> > bandwidth of a single node. With a more aggressive scheduler you get 4
> > times as much.
> >
> > Admittedly it's a bit of a stupid benchmark, but seems to
> > representative for a lot of HPC codes.
>
> There's no way the scheduler can figure out the scheduling and memory
> use patterns of the new tasks in advance.
>
> but userspace could give hints - e.g. a syscall that triggers a
> rebalancing: sys_sched_load_balance(). This way userspace notifies the
> scheduler that it is on 'zero ground' and that the scheduler can move it
> to the least loaded cpu/node.
>
> a variant of this is already possible, userspace can use setaffinity to
> load-balance manually - but sched_load_balance() would be automatic.

For Opteron simply placing all cpus in the same sched domain may solve all of 
this, since we will have balancing frequency of the default scheduler.  Is 
there any reason this cannot be done for Opteron?

Also, I think Erich Focht had another patch which would allow much more 
frequent node balancing is the nr_cpus_node was 1.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-25 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25 15:31 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-25 15:40 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-25 19:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-25 15:21     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-25 19:39       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-25 20:30         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-29  8:45           ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29 10:20             ` Rick Lindsley
2004-03-29  5:07               ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29 11:28               ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-29 17:30                 ` Rick Lindsley
2004-03-30  0:01                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  1:26                     ` Rick Lindsley
2004-03-29 11:20             ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-29  6:01               ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29 11:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-29  7:03                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29  7:10                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29 20:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-29 23:51                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  6:34                       ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30  6:40                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  7:07                           ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30  7:14                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:45                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  7:58                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:15                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  7:18                               ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:48                               ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30  8:18                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  9:36                                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30  7:42                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  7:03                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:13                           ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30  7:24                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:38                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-30  7:13                           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-30  7:31                             ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  7:38                               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-30  8:05                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  8:19                                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30  8:45                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-30  8:53                                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30 15:27                                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-25 19:24     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-25 21:48       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-25 22:28         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-29 22:30           ` Erich Focht
2004-03-30  9:05             ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30 10:04               ` Erich Focht
2004-03-30 10:58                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-30 16:03                   ` [patch] sched-2.6.5-rc3-mm1-A0 Ingo Molnar
2004-03-31  2:30                     ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-30 11:02                 ` [Lse-tech] [patch] sched-domain cleanups, sched-2.6.5-rc2-mm2-A3 Andrew Morton
     [not found]                   ` <20040330161438.GA2257@elte.hu>
     [not found]                     ` <20040330161910.GA2860@elte.hu>
     [not found]                       ` <20040330162514.GA2943@elte.hu>
2004-03-30 21:03                         ` [patch] new-context balancing, 2.6.5-rc3-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2004-03-31  2:30                           ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-31 18:59                   ` [Lse-tech] [patch] sched-domain cleanups, sched-2.6.5-rc2-mm2-A3 Erich Focht
2004-03-31  2:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-31 22:23                   ` Erich Focht
2004-03-30 15:01             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-31 21:23               ` Erich Focht
2004-03-31 21:33                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-25 21:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-25 22:26     ` Rick Lindsley
2004-03-25 22:30     ` Andrew Theurer [this message]
2004-03-25 22:38       ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-26  1:29       ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-26  3:23   ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-30 21:40 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-30 22:15 ` Andrew Theurer
     [not found] <1DF7H-22Y-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1DL3x-7iG-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1DLGd-7TS-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1FmNz-72J-73@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1FnzJ-7IW-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-30  9:39         ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-31  1:56           ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-25 15:15 Nakajima, Jun
2004-03-25 16:19 ` John Hawkes
2004-03-25 16:53 ` Martin J. Bligh

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