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From: Sergiy Lozovsky <serge_lozovsky@yahoo.com>
To: Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel stack challenge
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 10:59:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040405175940.94093.qmail@web40509.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4071A036.4050003@techsource.com>


--- Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sergiy Lozovsky wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I put LISP interpreter inside the Kernel -
> 
> 
> 
> I'm dying to know why you need a LISP interpreter
> inside the kernel.

It is explained at my project home page -
http://vxe.quercitron.com

Basically there are two reasons.

1. Give system administrator possibility to change
security policy easy enough without C programminig
inside the kernel (we should not expect system
administartor to be a kernel guru). Language of higher
lavel make code more compact (C - is too low level,
that's why people use PERL for example or LISP). Lisp
was chosen because of very compact VM - around 100K.

2. Protect system from bugs in security policy created
by system administrator (user). LISP interpreter is a
LISP Virtual Machine (as Java VM). So all bugs are
incapsulated and don't affect kernel. Even severe bugs
in this LISP kernel module can cause termination of
user space application only (except of stack overflow
- which I can address). LISP error message will be
printed in the kernel log.

Serge.


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-05 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-04  6:48 Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05  9:39 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-05 17:05   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 18:06     ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 17:59       ` Sergiy Lozovsky [this message]
2004-04-05 19:27         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-05 21:14           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 20:09         ` John Stoffel
2004-04-05 20:54           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:08             ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 21:40               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:53                 ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 22:22                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:49                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 13:25                     ` Jesse Pollard
     [not found]                     ` <20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
     [not found]                       ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
2004-04-06 16:40                         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 19:10                           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 20:53                             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 21:24                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-07 14:36                           ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:21               ` Stephen Smoogen
2004-04-05 22:25                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:30               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:45                 ` Kevin Fox
2004-04-05 21:59                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-05 22:52                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  0:46                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  0:55                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  3:02                       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  3:04                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-05 22:20                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:27                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:16                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-06 20:58                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:05                     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:56                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 23:17                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 13:11                           ` Martin Waitz
2004-04-08 22:33                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  2:44                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07 17:54                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08  2:43                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08  4:07                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08  4:29                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08 22:51                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 15:44                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-08 22:22                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-09 15:27                                   ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:12         ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 13:32     ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-06 17:44       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  1:02         ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07  1:34           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  8:57             ` David Weinehall
2004-04-07 13:38               ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-07 17:12                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07 17:16               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  2:30           ` viro
2004-04-06 18:33       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-06 18:51         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <1H9LV-5Jb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-04-04 11:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-04 18:24   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-04 18:38     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
     [not found] <200404052043.i35KhDvS020176@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2004-04-05 21:06 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <200404052026.i35KQh5g004342@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-05 21:21 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061606.i36G6YLE003375@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:04 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:28   ` John Stoffel
2004-04-06 18:48     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:57   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-06 21:15     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:44       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:57         ` viro
2004-04-06 23:32           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 23:45             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-07  2:25       ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061618.i36GIHgW003419@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:16 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-06 21:38     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:46       ` Timothy Miller
     [not found] <24DA9B48-8827-11D8-87A5-000A9585C204@able.es>
2004-04-07  0:27 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <58907794@toto.iv>
2004-04-07  4:29 ` Peter Chubb
     [not found] <20040409182517.330.qmail@web40508.mail.yahoo.com>
2004-04-10  4:17 ` Horst von Brand

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