From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (4KSTACK)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:04:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405060104.55340.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c7bin8$fg7$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com>
On Wednesday 05 of May 2004 22:31, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Dominik Karall <dominik.karall@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>On Wednesday 05 May 2004 10:31, you wrote:
> >>>+make-4k-stacks-permanent.patch
> >>>
> >>> Fill my inbox.
> >>
> >>Hi Andrew!
> >>
> >>Is there any reason why this patch was applied? Because NVidia users
> >> can't work with the original drivers now without removing this patch
> >> every time.
> >
> > We need to push this issue along quickly. The single-page stack
> > generally gives us a better kernel and having the stack size configurable
> > creates pain.
>
> Add my voice to those who don't think 4k stacks are a good idea as a
> default, they break some things and seem to leave other paths (as others
> have noted) on the edge. I'm not sure what you have in mind as a "better
> kernel" but I'd rather have a worse kernel and not have to check 4k
> stack as a possible problem before looking at other things if I get bad
> behaviour.
>
> Reliability first, performance later. We've lived with the config for a
> while, pain there is better than pain at runtime.
Opposite opinion here.
If you want 100% reliability you shouldn't use -mm in the first place.
Making 4kb stacks default in -mm is very good idea so it will get necessary
testing and fixing before being integrated into mainline.
Please also note that users of binary only modules always have choice:
- new kernels without binary only modules
- old kernels with binary only modules
It is really that simple.
Regards,
Bartlomiej
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-05 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-05 8:31 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-05 8:46 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Fabio Coatti
2004-05-05 9:07 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Onur Kucuk
2004-05-05 11:12 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (4KSTACK) Dominik Karall
2004-05-05 11:10 ` Ralf Hildebrandt
2004-05-05 11:13 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-05-05 11:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-05 11:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-05 12:09 ` Rene Herman
2004-05-05 16:47 ` Steve Lord
2004-05-05 18:48 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-05-05 19:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-05 19:56 ` Steve Lord
2004-05-05 19:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-06 17:44 ` Max Valdez
2004-05-05 20:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-05 23:04 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2004-05-06 12:55 ` Norberto Bensa
2004-05-06 13:33 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-06 18:47 ` Norberto Bensa
2004-05-09 17:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-09 18:25 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-11 16:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-11 23:27 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-05-11 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-12 0:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-12 16:07 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-12 16:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-15 19:48 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-06 10:09 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-06 12:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-05 18:22 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-05 21:51 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-06 15:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-06 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-06 16:29 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-07 9:50 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-07 0:37 ` Paul Jakma
2004-05-07 2:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-07 3:44 ` Paul Jakma
2004-05-07 3:58 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-07 7:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-07 15:26 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-07 19:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-07 6:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-07 15:13 ` Dave Jones
2004-05-07 15:47 ` Steve Lord
2004-05-07 15:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-07 16:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-05-07 16:11 ` Steve Lord
2004-05-07 16:28 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-07 19:45 ` Paul Jakma
2004-05-07 19:48 ` Paul Jakma
2004-05-10 19:49 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-10 20:31 ` Horst von Brand
2004-05-11 2:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11 8:45 ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-11 17:59 ` several messages Bill Davidsen
2004-05-06 16:03 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (4KSTACK) Malte Schröder
2004-05-06 16:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-06 17:05 ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-05 13:31 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 [delete-posix-...-unifix-message] Paul Jackson
2004-05-05 15:33 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-05 17:59 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Arnd Bergmann
2004-05-05 16:06 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Paul Jackson
2004-05-05 16:40 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Christoph Hellwig
2004-05-05 16:49 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Paul Jackson
2004-05-05 20:16 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-06 1:51 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Paul Jackson
2004-05-06 19:38 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-05 17:10 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (compile stats) John Cherry
2004-05-05 17:33 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 [sparc, sparc64, mips syscall broken] Paul Jackson
2004-05-05 23:29 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2: vermagic compile error if CONFIG_MODULES=n Adrian Bunk
2004-05-06 14:53 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Antonio Dolcetta
2004-05-06 15:12 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 15:56 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Antonio Dolcetta
2004-05-06 17:26 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Adrian Bunk
2004-05-06 21:46 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Bruce Guenter
2004-05-07 2:52 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-07 4:16 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Rusty Russell
2004-05-07 16:05 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Bruce Guenter
2004-05-07 20:13 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-08 6:09 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
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2004-05-08 11:31 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 16:25 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-08 11:43 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 12:16 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-08 16:59 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Bruce Guenter
2004-05-08 18:46 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 18:31 ` 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 Joseph Fannin
2004-05-06 9:06 2.6.6-rc3-mm2 (4KSTACK) h.verhagen
2004-05-06 9:12 h.verhagen
2004-05-06 9:48 Sid Boyce
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2004-05-07 18:38 ` Andi Kleen
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