From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263645AbUEGPxR (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 May 2004 11:53:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263646AbUEGPxR (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 May 2004 11:53:17 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:23988 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263645AbUEGPxN (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 May 2004 11:53:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 08:53:12 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Distributions vs kernel development Message-Id: <20040507085312.3247d70d@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net> Organization: Open Source Development Lab X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Face: &@E+xe?c%:&e4D{>f1O<&U>2qwRREG5!}7R4;D<"NO^UI2mJ[eEOA2*3>(`Th.yP,VDPo9$ /`~cw![cmj~~jWe?AHY7D1S+\}5brN0k*NE?pPh_'_d>6;XGG[\KDRViCfumZT3@[ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org After having being burned twice: first by Mandrake and supermount, and second by SuSe and reiserfs attributes; are any of the distributions committed to making sure that their distribution will run the standard kernel? (ie. 2.6.X from kernel.org). When running a non-vendor kernel, I need to reasonably expect that the system will boot and all the filesystems and standard devices are available. I don't expect every startup script to run clean, or every device that has a driver only in the vendor kernel to work. But kernel developers need to be able run a standard environment. This effects both day to day kernel testing and automated test environments like PLM and STP. I am not saying it is bad that the distributions try to satisfy their customers, or create a better experience; they just need to stop breaking things, and add running a standard kernel as part of their QA cycle.