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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Tuukka Toivonen <tuukkat@ee.oulu.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de,
	b-gruber@gmx.de, mhakali@telia.com,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SERIO_USERDEV: direct userspace access to mouse/keyboard psaux serial ports
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 19:35:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040507193519.06062655.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0405072348120.21057@stekt37>

Tuukka Toivonen <tuukkat@ee.oulu.fi> wrote:
>
> SERIO_USERDEV - Direct serial input device access for userspace
> 
>  This driver provides direct access from usespace into PS/2 (or psaux)
>  serial ports used usually for input devices such as mouses and keyboards.

I must say that last time this went around, the arguments which were made
in its favour made sense.  Let me recap:

At present, the kernel decodes the external device into logical "events"
and, if someone wants access to the raw device bitstream the kernel will
synthesize that bitstream from the decoded event stream.

But if, for example, the kernel doesn't have a decoder for the external
device, we're out of luck.

And given that the external device generates a stream of bits, the kernel
should provide some way for applications to directly access that stream
without the intervening interpretation.


Is that a decent summary of the situation?

If so then yeah, I think the kernel should have a driver which does all of
this.


  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-08  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-07 20:55 Tuukka Toivonen
2004-05-08  2:35 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-05-25 20:16   ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Chris Osicki
2004-05-26  7:54     ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-28 13:33       ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-05-28 17:37       ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-29 13:12         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30  9:45           ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 10:19             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 11:25               ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 11:40                 ` Brad Campbell
2004-05-30 12:01                 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-05-30 12:22                   ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 12:32                     ` Oliver Neukum
2004-05-30 12:16                 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 12:40                   ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-30 12:52                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-30 16:09                     ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-05-30 17:26                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-06-04 13:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-04 18:17                   ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-04 18:37                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-04 19:33                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-04 19:50                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-04 20:48                           ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-06-04 18:39                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-04 18:46                       ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-04 19:09                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-06  9:01                           ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-06 16:40                             ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-28 19:39       ` 2.6.* useland replacements of the atkbd and psmouse modules Sau Dan Lee
2004-05-28 19:57       ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Andries Brouwer
2004-06-01  8:21       ` BUG: atkbd.c keyboard driver bug [Was: keyboard problem with 2.6.6] Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01  9:13       ` BUG FIX: " Sau Dan Lee
     [not found]       ` <200406010904.i5194pSo010367@fire-2.osdl.org>
2004-06-01  9:44         ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01  9:55           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-06-01 10:03             ` Sau Dan Lee
2004-06-01 12:42             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-05-28 19:41     ` keyboard problem with 2.6.6 Andries Brouwer
2004-05-28 20:10       ` Andries Brouwer
     [not found]       ` <20040528214620.GA2352@gucio>
2004-05-29 13:23         ` Andries Brouwer
2004-05-29 13:46           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-29 14:30             ` Andries Brouwer
2004-05-29 14:41               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-05-29 15:12             ` Giuseppe Bilotta
     [not found] <MPG.1b2111558bc2d299896a2@news.gmane.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20040525201616.GE6512@gucio.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <xb7hdu3fwsj.fsf@savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <xb7aczscv0q.fsf@savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20040529131233.GA6185@ucw.cz.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
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