From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261745AbUEJXMc (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2004 19:12:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261706AbUEJXM3 (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2004 19:12:29 -0400 Received: from pimout2-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.63.101]:60845 "EHLO pimout2-ext.prodigy.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263037AbUEJXLz (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 May 2004 19:11:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:11:46 -0700 From: Chris Wedgwood To: Andrew Morton Cc: Christoph Hellwig , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.6-mm1 Message-ID: <20040510231146.GA5168@taniwha.stupidest.org> References: <20040510024506.1a9023b6.akpm@osdl.org> <20040510223755.A7773@infradead.org> <20040510150203.3257ccac.akpm@osdl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040510150203.3257ccac.akpm@osdl.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 03:02:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > Capabilities are broken and don't work. Nobody has a clue how to > provide the required services with SELinux and nobody has any code > and we need the feature *now* before vendors go shipping even more > ghastly stuff. eh? magic groups are nasty... and why is this needed? can't oracle/whatever just run with a wrapper to give the capabilities out as required until a better solution is available merging this as-is IMO is a mistake, how about we get a chance to chew on this for a while --- superficially it feels like a really nasty hack and who cares if vendors show something worse? vendors ship crap all the time, that's partly why we have vendor kernels --- to ship crap that people want now w/o having to corrupt and pollute the cleanliness of the mainline kernel until a sufficiently well thought out sane plan can be devised --cw