From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264228AbUEMOKW (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2004 10:10:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264238AbUEMOKW (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2004 10:10:22 -0400 Received: from hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de ([129.187.202.12]:12534 "HELO hermes.fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S264228AbUEMOJr (ORCPT ); Thu, 13 May 2004 10:09:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:09:39 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Chris Mason Cc: Andrew Morton , Christoph Hellwig , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.6.6-mm2 Message-ID: <20040513140939.GF22202@fs.tum.de> References: <20040513032736.40651f8e.akpm@osdl.org> <20040513114520.A8442@infradead.org> <20040513035134.2e9013ea.akpm@osdl.org> <20040513121206.A8620@infradead.org> <20040513042540.073478ea.akpm@osdl.org> <20040513131842.GC22202@fs.tum.de> <1084455572.2583.395.camel@watt.suse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1084455572.2583.395.camel@watt.suse.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 09:39:32AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote: > On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 09:18, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 04:25:40AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > >... > > > Wim explained that any application changes now won't be widely deployed for > > > another year. During that period the ability to run existing Oracle setups > > > requires that hugepage allocation be available to unprivileged > > > applications. > > >... > > > It means that if people install a kernel.org machine on their database > > > server, the database *just won't work*. This is not good for those users, > > > for the kernel developers or for Linux's reputation in general. > > >... > > > > That sounds silly when talking about Oracle. > > > > Oracle says: > > Which Kernels are supported? > > > > Oracle does not support modified or recompiled kernels. Recompiled > > kernels are not supported with or without source modifications. > > > > > > I doubt there are many "existing Oracle setups" that will risk to lose > > all Oracle support by installing a different kernel. > > > No, I doubt so as well. Then again, why force them into a vendor > kernel? At the very least, it would be nice to be able to benchmark > vanilla against the vendors. >... I think I recall times when code contributions to the kernel were only judged by their quality and not by the needs of some non-free apps or what vendors did. Either my memory is wrong, or these times are gone now... > -chris cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed