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From: "Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
	Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:18:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040606161827.GC28576@bounceswoosh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040605092447.GB13641@suse.de>

On Sat, Jun  5 at 11:24, Jens Axboe wrote:
>I did suggest this a few years ago. The comment I received was that
>they didn't take suggestions from OS people, if I didn't have a drive
>implementation to go with the proposal they couldn't use it for
>anything. Which was interesting, since that seemed to suggest that t13
>had little steering in ata development, they mainly put into the ATA
>specs what drive manufacturers shoved at them. Of course this isn't 100%
>true, but it does explain a lot of things :-)

If it helps, I'm listening.

Suggestions/proposals for new features etc, if they're a good idea, I
can help push inside via our SATA/T13 reps.  Note that as per all
long-lived specs with multiple revisions, changing the behavior of an
existing feature to something incompatible is virtually never
feasable.

>Andre even tried getting FUA to do what we needed, no such luck there.
>Some other bigger OS wanted it differently, the rest is history.

Lo siento, I wasn't around when that occurred.  Of course, that other
bigger OS has a very large installed base, and selling a drive that
breaks it is corporate suicide.


-- 
Eric D. Mudama
edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org


  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-06 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-27 20:24 [2.6.7-rc1-mm1] cant mount reiserfs using -o barrier=flush Günther Persoons
2004-05-27 23:28 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-28 11:54   ` Gunther Persoons
2004-05-28 12:18     ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 21:39       ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-29  8:30         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04  2:07   ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04  2:31     ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04  9:42       ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:22         ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04 11:32           ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:45             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:57             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:01               ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 12:38                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:47                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 13:34                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 15:23                       ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 16:14                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-05  9:18                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-09 21:52                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 22:06                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-09 23:38                                 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:50                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10  0:20                                     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10  0:37                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10  1:02                                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10  0:28                                     ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10  0:38                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10  0:45                                         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 15:14                                         ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10 15:15                                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10  1:05                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10  6:27                                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10  6:26                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 17:29                         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-05  9:24                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-06 16:18                             ` Eric D. Mudama [this message]
2004-06-06 20:46                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10  0:38                               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10  6:11                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 16:41                                   ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-10 17:50                                     ` flush cache range proposal (was Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later) Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 18:02                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 20:33                                         ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:22                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11  7:55                                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:17                                           ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:31                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 16:52                                               ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:58                                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:54                                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:50                                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:24                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11  6:10                                       ` Stuart Young
2004-06-26  8:31                                     ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Andre Hedrick
2004-06-26  8:58                                       ` Andre Hedrick
2004-06-28 18:18                                       ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-07-02  8:29                                         ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-07  5:40                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-04 11:48         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:44     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-09 23:52       ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10  0:17         ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-10  6:29         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-14 21:42       ` Ed Tomlinson

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