From: "Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>,
Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 10:18:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040606161827.GC28576@bounceswoosh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040605092447.GB13641@suse.de>
On Sat, Jun 5 at 11:24, Jens Axboe wrote:
>I did suggest this a few years ago. The comment I received was that
>they didn't take suggestions from OS people, if I didn't have a drive
>implementation to go with the proposal they couldn't use it for
>anything. Which was interesting, since that seemed to suggest that t13
>had little steering in ata development, they mainly put into the ATA
>specs what drive manufacturers shoved at them. Of course this isn't 100%
>true, but it does explain a lot of things :-)
If it helps, I'm listening.
Suggestions/proposals for new features etc, if they're a good idea, I
can help push inside via our SATA/T13 reps. Note that as per all
long-lived specs with multiple revisions, changing the behavior of an
existing feature to something incompatible is virtually never
feasable.
>Andre even tried getting FUA to do what we needed, no such luck there.
>Some other bigger OS wanted it differently, the rest is history.
Lo siento, I wasn't around when that occurred. Of course, that other
bigger OS has a very large installed base, and selling a drive that
breaks it is corporate suicide.
--
Eric D. Mudama
edmudama@mail.bounceswoosh.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-06 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-27 20:24 [2.6.7-rc1-mm1] cant mount reiserfs using -o barrier=flush Günther Persoons
2004-05-27 23:28 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-28 11:54 ` Gunther Persoons
2004-05-28 12:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-28 21:39 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-05-29 8:30 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 2:07 ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04 2:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-04 9:42 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:22 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-04 11:32 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:45 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 11:57 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:01 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 12:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 12:47 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 13:34 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-04 15:23 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 16:14 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-05 9:18 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-09 21:52 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 22:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-09 23:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:50 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:20 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 1:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 0:28 ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10 0:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:45 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 15:14 ` Chris Mason
2004-06-10 15:15 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 1:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 6:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 6:26 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-04 17:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-05 9:24 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-06 16:18 ` Eric D. Mudama [this message]
2004-06-06 20:46 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 0:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-10 6:11 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-10 16:41 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-10 17:50 ` flush cache range proposal (was Re: ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later) Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 18:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-10 20:33 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 7:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:17 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 16:52 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-06-11 16:58 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:54 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-11 16:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-11 6:10 ` Stuart Young
2004-06-26 8:31 ` ide errors in 7-rc1-mm1 and later Andre Hedrick
2004-06-26 8:58 ` Andre Hedrick
2004-06-28 18:18 ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-07-02 8:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-07 5:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-04 11:48 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-06-09 23:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-09 23:52 ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-10 0:17 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-06-10 6:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-14 21:42 ` Ed Tomlinson
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