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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: In-kernel Authentication Tokens (PAGs)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:44:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040612144437.V21045@build.pdx.osdl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ADFD1FB4-BCB5-11D8-888F-000393ACC76E@mac.com>; from mrmacman_g4@mac.com on Sat, Jun 12, 2004 at 05:15:50PM -0400

* Kyle Moffett (mrmacman_g4@mac.com) wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2004, at 16:53, Chris Wright wrote:
> > Actually that's not the case.  The UID is currently insufficient to
> > describe the security domain that a process is running in.  The whole
> > of the LSM infrastructure is designed with this in mind.  So somehting
> > like SELinux may enforce a security domain change (w/out a UID change)
> > across an execve() of pagsh.  I was simply trying to ascertain if you
> > were storing this within task->user which I think would be wrong.
> 
> Ahh, ok, I myself have no experience with LSM, so there will likely be 
> some
> need to change my implementation.  Currently the only field that I add 
> to
> existing structures in the kernel is a pag field in the task_struct.  
> PAG
> structures themselves need some way of determining if the calling task
> is in the same "grouping" as a stored "grouping" within the PAG.  My
> implementation uses UIDs, but I would be very glad if you could tell me
> what I should use instead.  I need some kind of structure or pointer 
> that I
> can embed within a PAG and a token, and some kind of equality test.

Typically, objects that LSM cares about include a pointer to opaque
data (security blob) which describes the security domain for the object.
See task->security as an example.  It's not clear to me if task->security
is sufficient and you only need a back pointer to the task or if each
PAG needs it's own security blob.

> The other thing that needs to be implemented is some kind of limit that
> restricts how many PAGs/tokens and how much memory can be allocated
> in the kernel per user and per process.  Do you have any information on
> where would be the best place to store that information?

Sounds like an extension to rlimits.  The counters could be stored in
->user to limit the userwide number of tokens.

thanks,
-chris
-- 
Linux Security Modules     http://lsm.immunix.org     http://lsm.bkbits.net

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-12 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-12  2:37 Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12  3:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12  4:57   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12  5:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12 12:51       ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 15:37         ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12 17:15           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12  3:15 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12  4:48   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 20:53     ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 21:15       ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 21:44         ` Chris Wright [this message]
2004-06-12 21:58           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 22:51             ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 23:40               ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 22:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-12 23:33   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 23:58     ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-13  0:23       ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-15  6:38         ` Blair Strang
2004-06-15  7:03           ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-15  9:36           ` David Howells
2004-06-15 19:00             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-15 22:07               ` Chris Wright
2004-06-15 23:48                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-16  0:01                   ` Chris Wright
2004-06-16  0:06                     ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-15 22:29             ` Chris Wright
2004-06-15 23:59             ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-16 14:22             ` David Howells
2004-06-16 14:37             ` David Howells
2004-06-16 14:49             ` David Howells
2004-06-17  1:13               ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-17 11:48               ` David Howells
2004-06-17 19:06                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-23 12:29                 ` David Howells
2004-06-23 21:03                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-29 17:07                   ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-07 18:54                     ` John Bucy
2004-07-08  1:29                       ` Kyle Moffett

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