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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] kbuild
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:14:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040615191418.GD2310@mars.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040615190951.C7666@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 07:09:51PM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > 
> > Compared to the original behaviour where the all: target picked the default
> > target for a given architecture, this patch adds the following:
> 
> This isn't the case on ARM.  I've always told people 'make zImage'
> or 'make Image'.  I've never told people to use just 'make' on its
> own - in fact, I've never used 'make' on its own with the kernel.

Why not?
Letting the build system select a default target is often a
better choice than some random choice by a developer.

> 
> > - One has to select the default kernel image only once
> >   when configuring the kernel.
> > - There exist a possibility to add more than half a line of text
> >   describing individual targets. All relevant information can be
> >   specified in the help section in the Kconfig file
> 
> You can't fit details for 500 platforms into half a line of text.
Not discussing different platforms, only discussing kernel targets.
For arm I see the following:
zImage, Image bootpImage uImage
And some test targets: zImg, Img, bp, i, zi

Not counting the test targets it is only 4 target of which 3 is
documented in help today.

> 
> > If we remove the current support for for example uboot we create an
> > additional step in between the make and copy image.
> 
> uboot support on ARM was only recently added, and only happened
> because I happened to misread the patch.  Had I been more on the
> ball, the support would NOT have been merged.  However, as it did
> get merged, I didn't want to create extra noise by taking it out.
> 
> Please don't take this as acceptance that throwing the uboot crap
> into the kernel for ARM was something I found agreeable.  I still
> find it distasteful that boot loaders have to define their own
> image formats and the kernel has to conform to the boot loader
> authors whims.

Maybe Wolgang can jump in here - I do not know why mkimage is needed.
But I do like to have it present for convinience.
It is btw called mkuboot.sh in scripts/ to better say what it does.

	Sam

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-15 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-14 20:40 Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 20:44 ` [PATCH 1/5] kbuild: default kernel image Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 21:05   ` Russell King
2004-06-15  4:40     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15  8:38       ` Russell King
2004-06-15  8:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-15 21:07           ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 21:17             ` Russell King
2004-06-16 15:34             ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 15:38         ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 15:53           ` Russell King
2004-06-14 20:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] kbuild: move rpm to scripts/package Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 20:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] kbuild: add deb-pkg target Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 20:58   ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-06-14 21:22     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 20:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] kbuild: make clean improved Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 20:50   ` Russell King
2004-06-14 21:19     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 21:38       ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15  4:36         ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 18:50     ` V13
2004-06-14 20:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] kbuild: external module build doc Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 12:13   ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-15 20:09     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 19:21   ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-15 19:55     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 23:00       ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-06-16 17:32       ` Jari Ruusu
2004-06-14 20:59 ` [PATCH 0/5] kbuild Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-14 23:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-15 15:41 ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 17:49   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 17:54     ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 19:01       ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 19:27         ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 21:02           ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 21:24             ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 18:09     ` Russell King
2004-06-15 19:14       ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2004-06-15 19:46         ` Russell King
2004-06-15 20:12           ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 20:55           ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 20:59             ` Tom Rini
2004-06-15 21:24               ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-15 21:06             ` Russell King
2004-06-16 19:49               ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-16 20:08                 ` Tom Rini
2004-06-16 20:54                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-06-16 20:49                     ` Tom Rini
2004-06-17  6:56                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-06-18 20:58                       ` Sam Ravnborg
     [not found] <sam@ravnborg.org>
2004-09-05 20:12 ` kbuild: Simplify vmlinux generation Sam Ravnborg
2004-09-05 20:19   ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-09-06 18:41   ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-06 19:00     ` Sam Ravnborg
2004-09-06 19:12     ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-06-11 19:25 ` [PATCH v2] x86,vdso: Fix vdso_install Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-11 19:45   ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-06-12 13:19   ` Josh Boyer
2014-06-12 15:28     ` [PATCH v3] " Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-12 17:01       ` Josh Boyer
2014-06-13 17:24         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-13 17:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-13 18:19       ` [tip:x86/vdso] x86/vdso: " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski

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