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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Cc: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, pwil3058@bigpond.net.au,
	Alexander.Povolotsky@marconi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	efault@gmx.de, rml@tech9.net, mingo@elte.hu, elladan@eskimo.com,
	cks@utcc.utoronto.ca
Subject: Re: Maximum frequency of re-scheduling (minimum time quantum ) que stio n
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:48:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040708214832.7d6b447c.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1089346699.970398.12519.502@pc.kolivas.org>

Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton writes:
> 
> > Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> However well tested your scheduler might be, it needs several
> >>  orders of magnitude more testing ;) Maybe the best we can hope
> >>  for is compile time selectable alternatives.
> > 
> > At this stage in the kernel lifecycle, for something as fiddly as the CPU
> > scheduler we really should be 100% driven by problem reporting.
> > 
> > If someone can identify a particular misbehaviour in the CPU scheduler then
> > they should put their editor away and work to produce a solid testcase. 
> > Armed with that, we can then identify the source of the particular problem.
> > 
> > It is at this point, and no earlier, that we can decide what an appropriate
> > solution is.  We then balance the risk of that solution against the severity
> > of the problem which it solves and make a decision as to whether to proceed.
> > 
> > Right now, the ratio of quality bug reporting to scheduler patching is
> > bizarrely small.
> 
> Is "for fun" not reason enough?

Sure.   "For 2.7" is a good reason, too.

> I'm still keeping an eye out for firm "behavioural" bug reports on 2.6 and 
> would discuss or address them.

OK, thanks.

> Seriously the only reason I went down the rewrite path was to address 
> complaints about the complexity of the current design. It was also an 
> opportunity to start implementing some requested features. I certainly have 
> never suggested it should even be considered for 2.6.

Yeah, I tend to think that the CPU scheduler is currently 90% good enough,
and does seem to have become rather opaque.

I wouldn't mind having a new "for fun" scheduler in -mm, except there's
ongoing futzing with the current one to be sorted out.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-09  4:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-08 13:01 Povolotsky, Alexander
2004-07-08 23:32 ` Peter Williams
2004-07-08 23:41   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-09  1:46   ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-09  1:57     ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-09  4:18       ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-09  4:48         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-07-09  3:04     ` Peter Williams
     [not found] <320586863@toto.iv>
2004-07-13  0:20 ` peterc
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-07  9:48 Maximum frequency of re-scheduling (minimum time quantum) " Povolotsky, Alexander
2004-07-07 15:52 ` Elladan
2004-07-07  7:59 Povolotsky, Alexander
2004-07-07  8:30 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-07  8:59 ` Elladan
2004-07-07 10:26   ` Con Kolivas
     [not found] <313680C9A886D511A06000204840E1CF08F42FD4@whq-msgusr-02.pit .comms.marconi.com>
2004-07-05 15:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2004-07-05 14:18 Povolotsky, Alexander
2004-07-05 23:26 ` Peter Williams

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