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From: Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc64-dev@lists.linuxppc.org,
	paulus@samba.org
Subject: resending .. Re: [PATCH] 2.6 PPC64: EEH notifier call chain
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:52:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040721205244.GG13171@austin.ibm.com> (raw)

Hi,

Resending due to an email gateway outage.

--linas

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To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6 PPC64: EEH notifier call chain
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From: Linas Vepstas <linas@bilge>

On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 02:05:45AM +1000, Paul Mackerras was heard to remark:
> Linas,
> 
> > Please review and forward upstream as appropriate.  
> 
> Sorry for the delay; have been on vacation.

And I just nagged you about this, just before discovering this email
in the inbox ... so apologies for nagging..

> > This patch implements a notifier call chain for EEH, as per pervious emails.
> > When an EEH slot freeze is detected, it is placed on a workqueue, from
> > whence it is dispatched to any regiistered notify callbacks.   The goal 
> > of the qorkqueue is to pull the slot-freeze detection out of an interrupt 
> > context.    As before, this patch only handles events for ethernet controllers;
> > I'll try to broaden the scope in future revisions.
> 
> I don't like the way we are making a policy decision here that
> ethernet devices can be recovered but other devices can't.  I would
> much rather call the notifier for all EEH events and have the notify
> callback(s) make the decision.  That could be either the hotplug
> driver or the device driver itself.  We get a return value from
> notifier_call_chain that could be used to communicate that back to
> eeh.c, if that is useful.

:)

Yes, except that some MMIO's occur in an interrupt context; ergo,
there must be some sort of policy in the interrupt handler until 
such time that device drivers become suitably EEH-aware.  Right
now, we can barely claim that ethernet is EEH-aware, but even that 
claim is pretty shaky, and is based on surmise rather than any 
analysis.

Note also, there are still firmware bugs in this call chain, even for
ethernet.  I also attempted a common USB controller (I forget the
brandname), and got some kind of massive corruption and flaming crash
before the workqueue code ever got a chance to run.   That's the 
why for the polciy in the interrupt context: to halt the system before
the corruption escapes into the wild.

I'm trying to think of this as an intermediate stepping stone until
such time that I get to actually start auditing the sea of device
drivers out there for correctness.  This will take a while; 
management has once again pulled me off of this task and onto 
something else :(

--linas

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