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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Benjamin Rutt <rutt.4+news@osu.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clearing filesystem cache for I/O benchmarks
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:40:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040726234005.597a94db.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pt6iq5u2.fsf@osu.edu>


(Please don't remove people from the email recipient list when doing kernel
work.)

Benjamin Rutt <rutt.4+news@osu.edu> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> 
> > Benjamin Rutt <rutt.4+news@osu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>  How can I purge all of the kernel's filesystem caches, so I can trust
> >>  that my I/O (read) requests I'm trying to benchmark bypass the kernel
> >>  filesystem cache?
> >
> > Either delete the benchmark test files or
> 
> I'm not sure I follow.  If I delete the benchmark files, I'll only
> need to create them again later in order to do a read test, and I'll
> have the same problem then, of how to eliminate the just-written-data
> from cache.

OK.

> Thanks for the reference, I wasn't aware of that one.  We are running
> some 2.4 kernels in our storage cluster unfortunately so that won't be
> usable for us everywhere.  I take it POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED is ignored
> under 2.4.

posix_fadvise() will return -ENOSYS under 2.4.

However...  If you write any amount of data to a file with O_DIRECT, that
will, as a side-effect, remove _all_ of that file's pagecache.  In 2.4 as
well as 2.6.  So you could scrub the pagecache by reading the first 4k then
writing it back with O_DIRECT.

However O_DIRECT is supported on very few filesystems in 2.4.  ext2 and
reiserfs have it.

XFS in 2.4 has O_DIRECT, I think, but I don't know if the invalidation
side-effect works on XFS.

> A related question...if no posix_fadvise() advice has been given, does
> reading sequentially every byte of an 8GB file on a machine with <=
> 8GB of RAM guarantee that any page cache data that existed on the
> machine prior to the start of the 8GB read is now gone?

It's not guaranteed that this will work - if the pages which you're trying
to evict were accessed multiple times then it may take more page
replacement to reliably shoot them down.  But writing a 2xmemory file and
then deleting it will be a reasonably effective way of evicting most of
the other pagecache.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-27  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-23 22:54 Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-24  5:21 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-07-24  5:31 ` Tim Wright
2004-07-26  0:07   ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-26  1:40     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-07-26 12:47       ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-25  8:11 ` Andreas Haumer
2004-07-26  7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-26 13:02   ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-27  6:40     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-07-27  7:16       ` Hans Reiser
2004-07-27 17:31         ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-27 18:03           ` Hans Reiser
2004-07-28 12:38             ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-28 17:03               ` Hans Reiser
2004-07-28 18:19                 ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-27 17:25       ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-27 20:00         ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-28 12:51           ` Benjamin Rutt
2004-07-29  1:05       ` Nathan Scott

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