From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
To: Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: inode_unused list corruption in 2.4.26 - spin_lock problem?
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:19:35 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040727141935.GB17456@logos.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0407261028470.21394-100000@nacho.alt.net>
On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 10:41:24AM -0700, Chris Caputo wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 01:00:19PM -0700, Chris Caputo wrote:
> > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 06:50:48PM -0700, Chris Caputo wrote:
> > > > > Is it safe to assume that the x86 version of atomic_dec_and_lock(), which
> > > > > iput() uses, is well trusted? I figure it's got to be, but doesn't hurt
> > > > > to ask.
> > > >
> > > > Pretty sure it is, used all over. You can try to use non-optimize version
> > > > at lib/dec_and_lock.c for a test.
> > >
> > > My current theory is that occasionally when irqbalance changes CPU
> > > affinities that the resulting set_ioapic_affinity() calls somehow cause
> > > either inter-CPU locking or cache coherency or ??? to fail.
> >
> > or.... some spinlock is just incorrect and having the irqbalance irqlayout
> > unhides that.. irqbalance only balances very very rarely so I doubt it's the
> > cause of anything...
Hi Chris,
> It has been a while since I have been able to follow up on this but I want
> to let you know that I _have been able_ to reproduce the problem (believed
> to be IRQ twiddling resulting in failed spinlock protection) with a stock
> kernel.
Well, no manipulation of the inode lists are done under IRQ context.
What you think might be happening is that an IRQ comes in __refile_inode()
(and other paths) and that causes a problem?
Thats perfectly fine. Again, no manipulation of the lists are done in
IRQ context.
> I would like to come up with a more reliable way to reproduce the problem
> with a stock kernel (2.4.26), since it is presently very rare (less than
> once per week) in the way I presently get it to happen, but as yet have
> not done so.
What is your workload? I'm more than willing to use the SMP boxes I have
access to try to reproduce this.
You said you also reproduced the same inode_unused corruption with 2.4.24, yes?
> My plan of attack is to remove irqbalance from the equation and repeatedly
> change with random intervals /proc/irq entries directly from one user mode
> program while another user mode program does things which inspire a lot of
> fs/inode.c spinlock activity (since that is where I continue to see list
> corruption).
>
> A few questions which could help me with this:
>
> - Which IRQ (if any) is used by CPU's to coordinate inter-CPU locking?
None as far as spinlocks are concerned. On x86 spinlock just does "lock ; dec $x"
operation which guarantees the atomicity of the "dec".
I feel I'm not answering your question, still. What do you mean?
> - What does it mean if a stack trace is incomplete? For example, one I
> have gotten is simply the tail end of the code snippet:
>
> 0b 9a 00 5d c8
>
> And so I have wondered if the failure to make a full stack trace
> indicates something in of itself.
Dont know the answer. I also usually see incomplete stack traces
that I can make no sense of.
> Thanks for any assistance. I hope to find more time to work on this in
> the coming weeks.
I'm willing to help. Just please do not mix report data which includes
your own filesystem/modified kernel. Lets work with stock kernels and
only that, to make it as simple as possible.
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-27 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-19 0:47 Chris Caputo
2004-06-20 0:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-06-20 3:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-21 0:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-06-21 17:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-21 18:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-06-24 1:51 ` Chris Caputo
2004-06-25 7:47 ` Chris Caputo
2004-06-24 1:50 ` Chris Caputo
2004-06-25 8:04 ` Chris Caputo
2004-06-25 10:18 ` Chris Caputo
2004-06-25 12:17 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-02 20:00 ` Chris Caputo
2004-07-03 5:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-26 17:41 ` Chris Caputo
2004-07-27 14:19 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2004-07-27 16:08 ` Chris Caputo
2004-07-29 0:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-29 6:27 ` Chris Caputo
2004-07-29 7:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-29 10:57 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-07-29 12:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-29 16:22 ` Chris Caputo
2004-07-29 16:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-04 15:38 ` Chris Caputo
2004-08-04 18:47 ` Chris Caputo
[not found] <20040805225549.GA18420@logos.cnet>
2004-08-07 16:00 ` Chris Caputo
2004-08-07 18:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-07 19:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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