From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263740AbUG1UqV (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:46:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263714AbUG1UqV (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:46:21 -0400 Received: from smtp.Lynuxworks.com ([207.21.185.24]:37394 "EHLO smtp.lynuxworks.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263740AbUG1UqL (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:46:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 13:46:03 -0700 To: Lee Revell Cc: Bill Huey , karim@opersys.com, Scott Wood , Ingo Molnar , "La Monte H.P. Yarroll" , Manas Saksena , Philippe Gerum , linux-kernel Subject: Re: [patch] IRQ threads Message-ID: <20040728204603.GA7106@nietzsche.lynx.com> References: <20040727225040.GA4370@yoda.timesys> <4107CA18.4060204@opersys.com> <1091039327.747.26.camel@mindpipe> <4107FA93.3030801@opersys.com> <1091043218.766.10.camel@mindpipe> <20040728202107.GA6952@nietzsche.lynx.com> <1091047369.791.35.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1091047369.791.35.camel@mindpipe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i From: Bill Huey (hui) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:42:51PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > As I understand it there will still be a place for the current hard-RT > Linux solutions, because even if I can get five nines latency better > than N, this is not good enough for hard RT, as you need to be able to > mathematically demonstrate that you can *never* miss a deadline. > > Or are you saying that the latest developments in the stock kernel make > this possible? Not quite with this thread and in this stage of development, but this is quite possible if certain concurrency problems are solved in Linux. RCU is a potential pain as well as other things. BSD/OS-FreeBSD-current are not new to this kind of conversion, so this is certainly very possible with very finite software engineering problems to solve. Scary ain't it ? It makes me wonder some times. bill