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From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	akpm@osdl.org, alan@redhat.com, jgarzik@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATCH: VLAN support for 3c59x/3c90x
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:05:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040731170551.GA27559@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <410BD0E3.2090302@candelatech.com>

Hi Ben,

On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:03:31AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
 
> VLAN allows you to continue using the ethX interface as a regular
> ethernet interface, so you do not generally want it's MTU to be set
> to 1504 because then the other peer ethernet interfaces would also
> have to be set to 1504.  I believe it is much better to silently let
> the extra 4 bytes pass but NOT advertise this extra 4 bytes to
> anything that actually cares about MTU.

I 100% agree with you on this one, but I don't see how playing with
change_mtu() would change anything. Ideally, we would need to export
the level 2 limit (imposed by hardware and intermediate switches) to
other drivers such as 802_1q, and let only the IP stack rely on dev->mtu.

I've seen several drivers which silently add 4 bytes to the hardware
config when CONFIG_VLAN is set. I find it better than fooling the IP
stack into using 1504 bytes, which is a disaster on UDP !

Cheers,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-31 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-28 12:42 Alan Cox
2004-07-28 21:33 ` Ben Greear
2004-07-28 22:15   ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 22:30     ` Ben Greear
2004-07-29 17:19       ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 21:36 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-28 21:45   ` Ben Greear
2004-07-29  4:18     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-30  2:20       ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-30 12:10         ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31  3:57           ` Herbert Xu
2004-07-31  8:33             ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]               ` <200407310846.i6V8k3qq006659@uai.com.br>
2004-07-31  8:57                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31  9:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-07-31 10:11                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31 14:12                   ` Matti Aarnio
2004-07-31 16:18                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-07-31 17:13                       ` Ben Greear
2004-07-31 17:03                     ` Ben Greear
2004-07-31 17:05                       ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2004-07-31 17:21                         ` Ben Greear
2004-07-31 20:16                           ` Lee Revell
2004-07-31 20:23                             ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31 20:25                             ` Alan Cox
2004-07-31 20:40                               ` Lee Revell
2004-08-06 12:30                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31 16:05                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-07-31 16:12                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31 16:26                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-07-31 21:06                         ` PATCH-2.4: MTU fix for tulip driver Willy Tarreau
2004-07-31  9:35               ` PATCH: VLAN support for 3c59x/3c90x Herbert Xu
2004-07-31 10:01                 ` Willy Tarreau

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