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From: Alexander Lyamin <flx@msu.ru>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>
Cc: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
	andrea@cpushare.com, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re:  secure computing for 2.6.7
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 01:02:39 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040803210239.GB7236@alias.nmd.msu.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1091536845.7645.60.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>

Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 08:40:45AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 15:27, Hans Reiser wrote:
> > Am I right to think that this could complement nicely our plans 
> > described at www.namesys.com/blackbox_security.html
> Hi Hans,
> 
> Out of curiosity, what do you think that this proposal will achieve that
> cannot already be done via SELinux policy?  SELinux policy can already
> express access rules based not only on the executable and user, but even
> the entire call chain that led to a given executable.

convinience ? speed ?


RBAC is a Good Thing, but I wonder if it could provide throughout syntax analysis
for vfs related syscalls. As it is now.

At least what declared in their docs, fs-wise they are somewhat like this

Macro Name	Description
stat_file_perms	Permissions to call stat or access on a file.
x_file_perms	Permissions to execute a file.
r_file_perms	Permissions to read a file.
rx_file_perms	Permissions to read and execute a file.
rw_file_perms	Permissions to read and write a file.
ra_file_perms	Permissions to read and append to a file.
link_file_perms	Permissions to link, unlink, or rename a file.
create_file_perms	Permissions to create, access, and delete a file.
r_dir_perms	Permissions to read and search a directory.
rw_dir_perms	Permissions to read and modify a directory.
ra_dir_perms	Permissions to read and add entries to a directory.
create_dir_perms	Permissions to create, access, and delete a directory.
mount_fs_perms	Permissions to mount and unmount a filesystem.


*shrugs*
Well, I am probably wrong...

p.s. _AND_ if I remember correctly reiser4 supposed to provide finer-then-file grain security.
well, at least it easily could, being truly semantic-enabled fs.

-- 
"the liberation loophole will make it clear.."
lex lyamin

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-03 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-04 17:39 andrea
2004-07-04 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-04 23:32   ` andrea
2004-07-05  0:37     ` Phy Prabab
2004-10-12 14:24   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-12 15:32     ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-12 15:59       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-12 16:28         ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-12 17:46           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-12 18:04             ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-12 18:10             ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-12 18:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-07 19:27 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-01 10:22   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-01 12:01     ` chris
2004-08-01 15:01       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-01 17:29         ` chris
2004-08-01 18:52           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-08-01 20:45           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-01 23:10             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-01 23:08               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-02 10:25                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-01 23:06           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-02  6:52             ` David Wagner
2004-08-03 12:48         ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-01 14:55     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-08-01 15:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-01 17:24         ` Bernd Eckenfels
2004-08-02  3:17         ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-02 16:31           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-03 12:40   ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-03 21:02     ` Alexander Lyamin [this message]
2004-08-05 11:47       ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-04  8:57     ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-05 11:48       ` Stephen Smalley
2004-08-07 23:20     ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-09 12:35       ` Stephen Smalley
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     [not found] ` <2fqhq-1RU-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2olLt-4wI-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-02  0:05     ` Andi Kleen
2004-08-02 10:19       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-02 19:06         ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-02 21:35           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-08-04 13:18       ` V13

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