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From: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
To: jmerkey@comcast.net
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jmerkey@drdos.com
Subject: Re: kallsyms 2.6.8 address ordering
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:00:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040819190029.GC1313@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <081920041810.18883.4124ED110002BABC000049C32200748184970A059D0A0306@comcast.net>

On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 06:10:25PM +0000, jmerkey@comcast.net wrote:
> I've noticed that LKML of late is unresponsive to a lot bug posts and
> that email is being blocked for a lot of folks.  It smells like partisan
> politics based on economic motivations and its not really "open" any
> more when people stoop to this level of behavior.  That aside:

I attribute this to people being over busy right now.

> kallsyms in 2.6.8 is presenting module symbol tables with out of order
> addresses in 2.6.X.  This makes maintaining a commercial kernel debugger
> for Linux 2.6 kernels nighmareish.  Also, the need to kmalloc name strings
> (like kdb does) from kallsyms in kdbsupport.c while IN THE DEBUGGER makes
> it impossible to debug large portions of the kernel code with kdb, so I
> have rewritten large sections of kallsyms.c to handle all these broken,
> brain-dead cases in mdb and I am not relying much on kdb hooks anymore.
> Why on earth does Linux need to have shifting tables of test strings
> for module names requiring all this complexity in the symbol tables
> and kallsyms.

It must be useful for people using small memory footprint machines.
Check with the folks doing embedded stuff.

I remember a discussion about kallsyms and scaling problems with
top reading some /proc/<pid> file.

Look at this:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=108758995727517&w=2

> I don't expect a response so I'll keep coding around the broken Linux
> 2.6 code but I wanted to post a record of this so perhaps someone will
> think about over-engineering systems which should be left alone.
> 
> Jeff

Good Luck,
Robin Holt

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-08-19 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-19 18:10 jmerkey
2004-08-19 18:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-19 18:30 ` Rik van Riel
2004-08-19 18:40 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-08-19 19:00 ` Robin Holt [this message]
2004-08-20 11:42   ` Paulo Marques
2004-08-19 20:10 ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-19 18:26 jmerkey
2004-08-19 18:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-19 19:14 jmerkey
2004-08-19 19:22 jmerkey
2004-08-19 19:24 jmerkey
2004-08-19 19:27 jmerkey
2004-08-19 19:42 ` David S. Miller
2004-08-19 22:07   ` Julien Oster
2004-08-19 22:40 jmerkey
2004-08-19 23:11 ` Francois Romieu
2004-08-19 22:43 jmerkey
2004-08-20  1:23 ` Horst von Brand

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