From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266880AbUHTOZ1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:25:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266888AbUHTOZ1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:25:27 -0400 Received: from avalon.servus.at ([193.170.194.18]:42881 "EHLO wildsau.enemy.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266880AbUHTOZV (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Aug 2004 10:25:21 -0400 From: "H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)" Message-Id: <200408201424.i7KEORxb004765@wildsau.enemy.org> Subject: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices In-Reply-To: <4125FFA2.nail8LD61HFT4@burner> To: Joerg Schilling Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 16:24:27 +0200 (MET DST) CC: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fsteiner-mail@bio.ifi.lmu.de, diablod3@gmail.com, B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL100 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > While Sun did spend a year refusing to fix security holes I found - for > > "compatibility reasons" - long ago back when I was a sysadmin at NTL, > > the Linux world does not work that way. > > Unless you tell us what kind of "security holes" you found _and_ when this has > been, it looks like a meaningless remark. Well ... despite the danger, that this email ist just another meaninless remark, too, I'd say that Sun acts like any other big software company: they don't listen to single persons reporting bugs, and tend to blame misbehaviour of software on you. Personal experience: I implemented some smartcard driver, it didn't work, I identified a bug, reported it. Sun said: "your software is buggy". It was only after our client (a big company) intervened, that Sun modified their kernel drivers (allthough I think the error was "below" that). Even though I exactly told them how to reproduce the bug, they were not able to. Two co-workes had to go to Sun in San Francisco - and they instantly were able to reproduce the bug on Sun's machine. Typical scenario: small sw-company reports bugs -> reply: "you are too unskilled". big company enters the scene -> things are getting fixed. So, you see, Sun is not per se impeccable. best regards, H.Rosmanith