From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268598AbUHYUsW (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:48:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268693AbUHYUmi (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:42:38 -0400 Received: from clusterfw.beeline3G.ru ([217.118.66.232]:14019 "EHLO crimson.namesys.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268602AbUHYUlw (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:41:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 00:35:17 +0400 From: Alex Zarochentsev To: Christoph Hellwig , Hans Reiser , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Lyamin aka FLX , Linus Torvalds , ReiserFS List Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Message-ID: <20040825203516.GB4688@backtop.namesys.com> References: <20040824202521.GA26705@lst.de> <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825200859.GA16345@lst.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040825200859.GA16345@lst.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:08:59PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:53:28PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: > > You ignored everything I said during the discussion of xattrs about how > > there is no need to have attributes when you can just have files and > > directories, and that xattrs reflected a complete ignorance of name > > space design principles. > > Actually in most of the discussion you simply didn't participate. While > xattrs might not be the nicest interface they have the advantag of not > breaking the SuS assumption of what directories vs files are, and they > do not break the Linux O_DIRECTORY semantics that are defined and need > to solve real-world races either. Reiser4 may have a mount option for whoose who like or have to use traditional O_DIRECTORY semantics. There would be no /metas under non-directories, if user wants that. [ ... ] -- Alex.