From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268729AbUHZLeh (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:34:37 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268783AbUHZL2c (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:28:32 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:18850 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268633AbUHZLW6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:22:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:20:43 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Spam Cc: wichert@wiggy.net, jra@samba.org, torvalds@osdl.org, reiser@namesys.com, hch@lst.de, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, flx@namesys.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 Message-Id: <20040826042043.15978b0a.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <1453776111.20040826131547@tnonline.net> References: <20040824202521.GA26705@lst.de> <412CEE38.1080707@namesys.com> <20040825152805.45a1ce64.akpm@osdl.org> <112698263.20040826005146@tnonline.net> <1453698131.20040826011935@tnonline.net> <20040825163225.4441cfdd.akpm@osdl.org> <20040825233739.GP10907@legion.cup.hp.com> <20040825234629.GF2612@wiggy.net> <1939276887.20040826114028@tnonline.net> <20040826024956.08b66b46.akpm@osdl.org> <839984491.20040826122025@tnonline.net> <20040826032457.21377e94.akpm@osdl.org> <742303812.20040826125114@tnonline.net> <20040826035500.00b5df56.akpm@osdl.org> <1453776111.20040826131547@tnonline.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Spam wrote: > > Secondly, do you expect file managers like Nautilus and Konqueror to > support every piece of file format on the planet so they could read > information directly from the documents? Sure. You're proposing that we implement a single, golden multi-stream file format in the kernel. We could just as well do that in libmultistreamfileformat.so. But I'll grant that one cannot go adding new metadata to, say, C files this way. I don't know how useful such a thing is though. Remember that my main point is that there's a lack of coordination in userspace. Hell, there's none. Putting it in-kernel forces that coordination, and may be the way to go, but it's pretty sad.