From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S267344AbUH1Rho (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:37:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S267351AbUH1Rho (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:37:44 -0400 Received: from fw.osdl.org ([65.172.181.6]:5524 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S267344AbUH1Rha (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:37:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:26:20 -0700 From: "Randy.Dunlap" To: Greg KH Cc: adam@yggdrasil.com, steve@steve-parker.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PWC issue Message-Id: <20040828102620.25a934a2.rddunlap@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20040828161242.GA14308@kroah.com> References: <200408281750.i7SHo5C05936@freya.yggdrasil.com> <20040828051919.GC10151@kroah.com> <20040828081100.6b6c9f8c.rddunlap@osdl.org> <20040828161242.GA14308@kroah.com> Organization: OSDL X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.8a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:12:42 -0700 Greg KH wrote: | On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 08:11:00AM -0700, Randy.Dunlap wrote: | > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:19:19 -0700 Greg KH wrote: | > | > | On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 10:50:05AM -0700, Adam J. Richter wrote: | > | > | > | > By the way, I have a long running dispute with Greg K-H | > | > about his refusal so far to remove replace the GPL incompatible | > | > firmware in certain USB serial drivers with such a user level | > | > loading mechanism. Go figure. | > | | > | Send me a patch to do so, and I will apply it (must include userspace | > | files so that hotplug can load them properly.) | > | | > | The last time we went around about this I rejected it as we were in a | > | stable kernel series. As that is now not true, I'm open to the patch. | > | > Which part is now not true? | | The "stable" part. I guess I'm still confused by some of what I consider contradictory remarks by Linus at the kernel summit, and the lack of a summary of that particular kernel summit session (other than on lwn.net). I think that we have only a stable kernel and not a development kernel series now, and that's a loss. But it's a loss either way that we toss & turn it... | Actually in thinking about it some more, we should offer up both options | for at least 6 months, with a warning that the in-kernel stuff is going | to be deleted on a specific date. That gives everyone time to convert | their userspace utilities to use the new firmware download code. | | Sound good? Some bounded time would be good, yes. Would have been good for pwc also, although Nemosoft has had 4 years to move the kernel decompression to userspace afaik, so it seems that he has taken way too long to get that done. -- ~Randy