From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263743AbUIDPSO (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:18:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263784AbUIDPSO (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:18:14 -0400 Received: from web53010.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.200]:59817 "HELO web53010.mail.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S263743AbUIDPSH (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Sep 2004 11:18:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20040904151806.97975.qmail@web53010.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 08:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Farmer Subject: DRM DRI and video To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org First, sorry for not posting directly to the thread, I'm not subscribed. >Keith Whitwell wrote on >Date: Sat Sep 04 2004 - 06:23:33 EST >Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 2004 at 11:30:54AM +0100, Keith >Whitwell wrote: > include a drm update. The last release >RH-9 kernel has various security > and data integrity issues anyway, so you'd >be a fool to keep running it. > OK, I've found www.kernel.org, and clicked on >the 'latest stable kernel' link. I got a file called >"patch-2.6.8.1.bz2". I tried to install this but >nothing happened. My i915 still doesn't work. What do >I do now? > You could start getting a clue. >You didn't stick with that long Christoph. We're not >even past first base yet. Let's try again? >So, I've got this file "patch-2.6.8.1.bz2". Lets >suppose my older brother comes in & compiles it up for >me & I'm now running 2.6.8.1 - it's implausible I >know, but let's make it easier for you. Now, why isn't >my i915 working? >Keith Clueless users do not download video drivers and install them successfully. Keith is stating that having the drivers released with the kernel would result in people not getting video driver updates fast enough. The contrary is in fact true. The machine I am on is Fedora Core 2. It has: vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358, vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.427, vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.435, vmlinuz-2.6.6-1.435.2.3, vmlinuz-2.6.7-1.494.2.2, and vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 I'm currently booted to 2.6.7-1.494 because I was dumb enough to try to get the ATI driver working. Part of the install removed some GL stuff. I fear when I boot 2.6.8-1 I'll be done. I'm not even sure this machine will run X after the next reboot. This machine has an ATI 9600 but the ATI driver didn't like the kernel I have (patches to make it install via a number of mailing lists were stupidly applied). ATI 9600 with ATI drivers and glxgears gives me: 360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 72.000 FPS Wow. This thing is now slower than it was with the stock ATI driver. Guess I messed something up pretty bad. I won't be messing with installing a video driver again. I'll take what Fedora gives me. Instead of multiple driver updated per kernel, I've tried 1 in the time of about 5 kernels. I'm not messing with my other machine, I want it to work. Include the drivers with the kernel. I don't have to pretend to be clueless like Keith did in his example. There is no way I'm going to download the latest DRI if I can't even get the ATI driver working. Sorry for the book. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail