From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S268040AbUIFO16 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:27:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S268061AbUIFO15 (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:27:57 -0400 Received: from pauli.thundrix.ch ([213.239.201.101]:11434 "EHLO pauli.thundrix.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S268040AbUIFO1w (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Sep 2004 10:27:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:26:42 +0200 From: Tonnerre To: Erik Hensema Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives Message-ID: <20040906142642.GB29886@thundrix.ch> References: <413694E6.7010606@slaphack.com> <4136A14E.9010303@slaphack.com> <4136C876.5010806@namesys.com> <4136E0B6.4000705@namesys.com> <14260000.1094149320@flay> <1094154744.12730.64.camel@voyager.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qcHopEYAB45HaUaB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-KeyID: 0x8BE1C38D X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1AB0 9AD6 D0C8 B9D5 C5C9 9C2A FF86 CBEE 8BE1 C38D X-GPG-KeyURL: http://users.thundrix.ch/~tonnerre/tonnerre.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040803i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut, On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 08:35:58PM +0000, Erik Hensema wrote: > In this case it's hard to imagine what advantages a multistream file > will bring, simply because we aren't used to working with them. Or > maybe there aren't any advantages at all. Point is: we don't know > yet. Maybe we have to toy with the idea for some years before we > really learn why multistream files are so great. Thus I recommend doing the same thing everything does to get his stuff implemented. How did User Mode Linux get accepted into the kernel? In the beginning, people couldn't imagine any advantage of it. Then, someone started coding it and provided patches. People tried it, improved it (important! It got to work on many platforms while being out of the main tree!) and some day we noticed that it was really cool for kernel hacking and virtualization.=20 So when it approached a mature level where we finally saw it was cool, it went into the mainline kernel, where it is now. For multistream files, what is that development cycle going to be? Get the idea, flame, flame, flame... ? Code talks, bullshit walks. Tonnerre --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.9.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBPHOi/4bL7ovhw40RApTnAKC3gaoI1OWpHnHkuJMe8fHb3eKKAQCfen1x rHkFUQF+M2+xKmKMuYBqhtw= =cJaA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qcHopEYAB45HaUaB--