From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [pagevec] resize pagevec to O(lg(NR_CPUS))
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 00:42:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040912004256.59a74c28.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040912071948.GH2660@holomorphy.com>
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>
> A large stream of faults to map in a file will blow L1 caches of the
> sizes you've mentioned at every kernel/user context switch. 256 distinct
> cachelines will very easily be referenced between faults. MAP_POPULATE
> and mlock() don't implement batching for either ->page_table_lock or
> ->tree_lock, so the pagevec point is moot in pagetable instantiation
> codepaths (though it probably shouldn't be).
Instantiation via normal fault-in becomes lock-intensive once you have
enough CPUs. At low CPU count the page zeroing probably preponderates.
> O_DIRECT writes and msync(..., ..., MS_SYNC) will use pagevecs on
> ->tree_lock in a rapid-fire process-triggerable manner. Almost all
> uses of pagevecs for ->lru_lock outside the scanner that I'm aware
> of are not rapid-fire in nature (though there probably should be some).
pagetable teardown (munmap, mremap, exit) is the place where pagevecs help
->lru_lock. And truncate.
> IMHO pagevecs are somewhat underutilized.
>
Possibly. I wouldn't bother converting anything unless a profiler tells
you to though.
> Sorry, 4*lg(NR_CPUS) is 64 when lg(NR_CPUS) = 16, or 65536 cpus. 512x
> Altixen would have 4*lg(512) = 4*9 = 36. The 4*lg(NR_CPUS) sizing was
> rather conservative on behalf of users of stack-allocated pagevecs.
It's pretty simple to diddle PAGEVEC_SIZE, run a few benchmarks. If that
makes no difference then the discussion is moot. If it makes a significant
difference then more investigation is warranted.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-12 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-09 16:39 [PATCH] cacheline align pagevec structure Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 22:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-09 21:41 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-09 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-09 23:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 22:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-09 23:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-10 0:07 ` [pagevec] resize pagevec to O(lg(NR_CPUS)) William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-10 4:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-10 4:59 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-10 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-12 0:29 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12 5:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 4:36 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12 4:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 4:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12 6:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-12 7:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 7:42 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-09-14 2:18 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-14 2:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-14 3:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-12 8:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-13 22:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-14 1:59 ` Nick Piggin
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