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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Lincoln Dale <ltd@cisco.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	paul@clubi.ie, netdev@oss.sgi.com, leonid.grossman@s2io.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The ultimate TOE design
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:38:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040917133809.GD28745@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040917083305.04f4d008@171.71.163.14>

On Fri, 17 September 2004 08:37:17 +1000, Lincoln Dale wrote:
> 
> sure -- ok -- that gets you the main processor.
> now add to that a Northbridge (perhaps AMD doesnt need that but i'm sure it 
> still does), Southbridge, DDR-SDRAM, ancilliary chips for doing MAC, PHY, 
> ...
> 
> couple that with the voltage of PCI where you're likely to need 
> step-up/step-down circuits (which aren't 100% efficient themselves), you're 
> still going to get very close to the limit, if not over it.
> 
> ... and after all that, the Geode is really designed to be an embedded 
> processor.
> Jeff was implying using garden-variety processors which seem to have large 
> heatsinks, not to mention cooling fans, not to mention quite significant 
> heat generation.
> 
> we're not _quite_ at the stage of being able to take garden-variety 
> processors and build-your-own-blade-server using PCI _just_ yet. :-)

FWIW, I've already been working with complete systems that suck their
power from PCI.  They do exist, just not in the grocery store next
door.

Jörn

-- 
Das Aufregende am Schreiben ist es, eine Ordnung zu schaffen, wo
vorher keine existiert hat.
-- Doris Lessing

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-17 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-15 19:33 Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 20:04 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-15 19:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-15 20:41     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:01       ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 21:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:13           ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 21:23             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:29               ` David S. Miller
2004-09-15 22:26                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 23:29                 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-24 13:07                   ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-24 13:21                     ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-24 18:09                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-24 19:39                         ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-09-16  0:57               ` jamal
2004-09-16  5:25                 ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-16  9:57                   ` jamal
2004-09-16 14:57                     ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-16  9:29               ` Lincoln Dale
2004-09-16 12:19                 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-16 13:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-09-16 12:57                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-16 22:37                       ` Lincoln Dale
2004-09-17 13:38                         ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2004-09-15 22:31             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:15         ` Michael Richardson
2004-09-15 20:53     ` David S. Miller
2004-09-16  1:05       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 21:10     ` David Lang
2004-09-15 23:05     ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-15 20:26   ` Neil Horman
2004-09-15 21:03     ` Wes Felter
2004-09-15 21:15       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <ciacj6$bfj$1@sea.gmane.org>
2004-09-15 21:42           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 21:25       ` Imran Badr
2004-09-16 11:37       ` Neil Horman
2004-09-16  5:51     ` Matt Porter
2004-09-15 21:36   ` Deepak Saxena
2004-09-15 23:03     ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-24 13:11     ` Lennert Buytenhek
2004-09-15 21:59   ` Tony Lee
2004-09-15 20:11 ` David Stevens
2004-09-15 20:16   ` David Schwartz
2004-09-15 20:25   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-15 20:54     ` Neil Horman
2004-09-15 21:41   ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-09-16  6:33   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-17  6:46   ` Eric Mudama
2004-09-17 14:15     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-17 20:27     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-09-17 20:36       ` David Lang
2004-09-17 23:20         ` Tony Lee
2004-09-17 23:36           ` Leonid Grossman
2004-09-22 23:25       ` Eric Mudama
2004-09-16  9:03 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
     [not found] <200409162034.i8GKYq39023185@guinness.s2io.com>
2004-09-22 20:18 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2004-09-23  4:46   ` Leonid Grossman

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