Re: Linux PM core problems

[Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>]

Am Montag, 27. September 2004 19:02 schrieb Patrick Mochel:
> 
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, David Brownell wrote:
> 
> > What, the audience that understands USB shouldn't be expected
> > to (a) discuss USB-related PM issues, except on non-USB lists; or
> > (b) involve developers who know other parts of PM?  Nonsense.
> 
> I didn't say that. But, the thread (especially given the Subject) is about
> how the core works. And, most of the relevant USB people seem to be on
> linux-kernel, or can easily be cc'd as well. And, what about Benh, who has
> suffered through this problems on ppc for just as long?

OK, the cc list can easily be extended.

[..]
> > There's been a notable lack of discussion about USB-related PM issues,
> > except in these recent threads.  So "read the archives" isn't constructive.
> 
> This thread seems to lack USB-centricity. I know you've read the archives
> and have participated in the discussions. But most, if not all, of the
> ideas have come up in one form or another (though many with poor timing).
> We're re-hashing the same discussion over and over. Not that that is a bad
> thing, because eventually someone will get sick of reading it all just fix
> the stupid code.
> 
> My issue is that core problems are being talked about on a splinter list
> and they should move to linux-kernel. But, if we're going to do that, it's
> imperative to understand the history and the context, and know that we
> have the same problem as we did 4 years ago (albeit with a different
> playing field).

Why? What makes this field so hard?
Would you be happy if we listed the problems USB has with the current code?

	Regards
		Oliver