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From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: jonathan@jonmasters.org, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Thomas Habets <thomas@habets.pp.se>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom_pardon, aka don't kill my xlock
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:33:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040928133352.GA24621@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040927164219.GA31645@logos.cnet>

On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 01:42:19PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 07:12:53PM +0200, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:35:54AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 02:12:26PM +0100, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > Just out of interest then...suppose we've got a loopback swap device
> > > > and that we can extend this by creating a new file or extending
> > > > somehow the existing one.
> > > > 
> > > > What would be wrong with having the page reclaim algorithms use one of
> > > > the low memory watermarks as a trigger to call in to userspace to
> > > > extend the swap available if possible? This is probably what Microsoft
> > > > et al do with their "Windows is extending your virtual memory, yada
> > > > yada blah blah". Comments? Already done?
> > > 
> > > You dont to change kernel code for that - make a script to monitor 
> > > swap usage, as soon as it gets below a given watermark, you swapon 
> > > whatever swapfile you want.
> > 
> > hmm, sounds good, but what if next 'burst' of
> > swapped out data is larger than the watermark?
> 
> Give the watermark a large enough value.

right, probably setting it to the currently 
available swapspace solves that issue ;)

anyway as I said, I'm fine with 'does not
work' but not very happy with half-assed
userspace solutions ...

best,
Herbert

> > I'm no friend of the 'extend swap idea' so don't
> > get me wrong, but userspace can just reduce the
> > cases where you get out-of-swap, without support
> > from the kernel side (via some userspace helper).
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-28 13:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-22 23:23 Thomas Habets
2004-09-23  0:01 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-23  0:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-23  4:45 ` Tonnerre
2004-09-23  6:57   ` Thomas Habets
2004-09-23 12:24     ` Tonnerre
2004-09-23 13:32       ` Thomas Habets
2004-09-23 23:45 ` Andries Brouwer
2004-09-24 13:19   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-24 19:58     ` Thomas Habets
2004-09-24 21:15       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-25 10:08         ` Thomas Habets
2004-09-27 10:41         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-27 12:54           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-09-27 13:12             ` Jon Masters
2004-09-27 12:36               ` Alan Cox
2004-09-27 13:35               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-27 15:59                 ` Jon Masters
2004-09-27 17:12                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-27 16:42                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-28 13:33                     ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2004-09-28 12:32                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-28 23:55                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-09-27 23:07                   ` Jon Masters
2004-09-29  0:49           ` Andries Brouwer
2004-09-24 14:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 22:57   ` Jon Masters
2004-09-25 16:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-27 12:00 Thomas Habets
2004-09-27 12:17 ` Jon Masters

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